Hello Jerry (and everyone else who's replied),

Ok thanks for that.

The council concerned in my case is Wiltshire. I am keen to not have the 
incorrectly tagged as "designation=public_footpath" way remaining incorrectly 
tagged in OSM, for the simple reason it's incorrect. However it doesn't look 
like I can use the Wiltshire data on Barry's site as evidence for this.

What I will do, therefore, is next time in the area, walk the "footpath" again 
to check that there are no ROW signs. If there are not, I think that's evidence 
enough that the designation tag can be removed. I obviously mis-interpreted a 
ROW sign last time I was there as indicating that path.

When HCC released their data ISTR the feeling was a bit different and it was 
basically ok to add it to OSM (or at least it hadn't been discussed in length). 
Therefore I think I used HCC data to add a missing segment of path - so it 
looks like I'll have to chop that one out.

Nick

-----"sk53.osm" <[email protected]> wrote: -----
To: Nick Whitelegg <[email protected]>
From: "sk53.osm" <[email protected]>
Date: 06/06/2013 10:59AM
Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, 
[email protected]
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Current status on UK Council footpath data

Hi Nick,

We have Open Data locally for Nottingham ProW (significant because the city was 
exempt from maintaining a definitive map until recently). So far all I have 
done is added ref information to paths already mapped. Even with open data the 
situation is still confusing: for instance a footpath  described as a ProW on a 
statement on the ground has not yet been  recognised and may require the 
dispute to be settled in the High Court. 

I got distracted by shops & pubs, which are nearing a reasonable degree of 
completion. However the experience gained of using open data to drive mapping 
surveys convinces me that by far and away the best use of open data is to drive 
targeted surveys for particular groups of data. By just looking for shops I've 
done real surveys in parts of Nottingham which hitherto were mainly arm-chair 
tracing. I'm sure a similar approach with ProW data would pay dividends: even 
if just to check where footpaths/bridleways join roads which would enable quick 
checking of signage.
 
One thing which concerns me is the 'private' release of Open Data. A number of 
counties have given ProW data to persistent pesterers (not meant perjoratively) 
apparently under a suitable license. I'd far rather see this published on the 
official websites of the Highway Authorities, not least because then one is 
reasonably sure that they have checked with OSGB re. OS data.
 
Best wishes,

Jerry Clough


On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 8:11 AM, Nick Whitelegg <[email protected]> 
wrote:
 Hi,

Just wondering what the current state of what we can do with the UK council 
footpath open data is?
 
Generally I don't just copy the data into OSM anyway: it's more fun to survey 
:-)

However I'm wondering whether we can do this?

1. Use the council data to verify whether a footpath surveyed by GPS is 
actually a public footpath, in cases when the waymarking is ambiguous and we 
"think" it's a right of way but may or may not be;
 2. Removing the designation tag from a footpath surveyed from GPS before the 
council data was available. I've discovered that a path I surveyed in 2010 is 
not actually a right of way, according to Barry Cornelius' rownmaps.com.
 
Thanks,
Nick


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