As the NSA clearly don't process their data according to E.164 (otherwise
how could they confuse Washington DC area code with Egypt), I think we can
skip it too!


On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:57 PM, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> **
>
> I am not sure what your issue was with highway=path etc, but do you mean 
> rationalising
> as in the sense of reducing the number of tags, thus losing (subtle)
> distinctions? I can't see how that is the same as the phone number format
> issue.
>
> Calling the transformation from OSM data to international format "trivial"
> does not do justice to the creativity of mappers when entering phone
> numbers or to telecoms regulators when defining numbering plans. The "four
> lines of regex" will need to be different for each country, and the code
> will need to be aware of what country (and area code) the number belongs
> to. And that's of course not including handling the more esoteric cases
> like "00+44 (01234) 654-321". If you want to minimise the amount of code
> for handling all these variations, you will of course benefit from more
> consistency and more normalisation, not less.
>
> Personally, although I suggested E.164, I don't care that much if it's
> some "national" format either, as long as it is well-defined and
> consistently applied.
>
> Colin
>
> On 2013-08-22 18:35, Richard Fairhurst wrote:
>
> Colin Smale wrote:
>
> Someone needs to stick up for the data consumers; it's not *all* about the
> mappers, and anyway most mappers are not so lazy that they can't be
> bothered to conform to conventions.
>
> As a data consumer I wish people would stop sticking up for me and my kin!
>
> IMX more heartache has been caused by well-meaning attempts to rationalise
> tagging "for the data consumers" than by the original tagging
> eccentricities. Take the highway=path farrago: I have a whole load of extra
> code in my Lua osm2pgsql and OSRM includes just to cope with this. If we'd
> stuck with highway=cycleway and highway=footway life would have been much
> easier. (Though I should point out that embedded Lua is ridiculously awesome
> for this sort of thing.)
>
> Transforming phone numbers from OSM tags into a uniform, international
> format is trivial. It's about four lines of regex, I guess, and anyone using
> phone numbers for national purposes will need to transform it the other way
> anyway. If you can cope with stuff 
> likehttp://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-12-04/
> (or OSRM, or whatever you're using) then it's not exactly going to faze you.
>
> By all means tidy up the phone numbers if it's what floats your boat, but
> don't kid yourself that it'll make data consumers' life any easier.
>
> cheers
> Richard
>
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