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On 17/01/2014 09:48, SK53 wrote:
First of all don't go by definitions on the wiki. The consensus tag (at
least in UK) is amenity=post_depot.

Second, we have the perfectly reasonably tag post_depot to distinguish
these things.

OK, I'll take your word for it, but is there any chance of getting this consensus documented somewhere, then, perhaps on

  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines

which would have saved me starting the thread :)


Third, DONT TAG FOR THE RENDERER. Just because you cant see them on the
OSM front page does not mean that you cant search for them. These are
truly different things. Locating delivery offices is not always easy,
they are often in some obscure parts of an industrial estate. I actually
mapped a local one because my father had tried to find it and failed.
They need to be distinguished, if they are just tagged post office they
disappear in the noise of real post offices.

No need to shout :)

I'm trying to distinguish between tagging for the current renderer (which is obviously wrong), and tagging in a way which is never going to be rendered (which, at least for concrete things like this, is pointless!)

I'm delighted (if a little surprised, given the Wiki) that Robert Whittaker thinks that a patch to render post_depot objects would be accepted by the renderer team. If so, I'm disappointed that, given there's a consensus around using that tag, that hasn't been done already.

The fact is that the renderer on openstreetmap.org *is* OpenStreetMap for most people, and it's crucial that it be kept up to date with best mapping practices.


As for DHL, CityLink etc, this is a more involved problem, particularly
as the Royal Mail is now not necessarily a universal service provider.
However, I think some other tag should be used for these distinct from
post_office and post_depot. parcel_depot or parcel_office come
immediately to mind.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but could you expand on why? Is it just that there's still a broad cultural belief that Post Office Ltd post offices are special, even though there's little actual difference left?

What about Parcelforce depots (Parcelforce is part of the Postal Services Holding Company plc, along with Post Office Ltd and Royal Mail itself): should their depots be amenity=post_office, or would you suggest parcel_depot for them too?

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Cheers,
John

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