Andy, I agree that Berlin doesn't need hundreds of name:**, but not because they are similar. Just because 80% will never be used. name:** should be entered by native speakers, not imported by Kolossos. Bury St Edmunds needs [name:uk=Бері-Сент-Едмендс]. Just assume Ukrainian person reading ukrainian article about Bury St Edmunds using Бері-Сент-Едмендс as city name. One would like to find it in OSM, but Nominatim can not find it! It is not easy to translate "Бері-Сент-Едмендс" back to "Bury St Edmunds" if you don't english names of UK cities. No, I don't want to add name:uk for cities or other objects that were never mentioned it ukrainian texts. This is redundant.
2014-08-04 21:23 GMT+03:00 SomeoneElse <[email protected]>: > On 04/08/2014 18:08, Philip Barnes wrote: > >> The big problem with transliteration to help pronunciation is where do >> you stop, Berlin for example has 194 name tags for different languages, 84 >> of which just say Berlin. >> > > Which gets straight to the nub of the problem. Berlin does _not_ need a > name:en of "Berlin" because it does _not_ have an English name that's > different to its actual name. > > Similarly, Bury St Edmunds(1) doesn't need a name:uk of Бері-Сент-Едмендс > as whichever local mapper I checked with in #osm-gb(2) said that it doesn't > have a distinct, verifiable, Ukrainian name (unlike for example Moscow (3) > and London (4), which have several distinct names). "Бері-Сент-Едмендс" is > a simple transliteration of the sound of the words "Bury St Edmunds" into > Ukrainian (poorly, as it turns out, because the pronunciation of the second > "u" is rendered as an "e" in the same way as the first (correctly) is). > > To duplicate every name in OSM in every language (or even every alphabet) > is clearly ridiculous - and the "but it's only for cities" argument is also > not a good one, since what is done for cities will next be done for towns, > villages, village shops, everything. > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > (1) http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/21409982/history > (2) https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/20757217 > (3) http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2555133 > (4) http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/65606 > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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