Mentioning Plas-y-Brenin brought the Scottish equivalent, Glenmore Lodge to mind so I checked how that was tagged, just a generic building so that was no use.
I also looked at a couple of other outdoors centres I recall from schooldays, Benmore and Dounans, one was a building and one a school. So certainly up here in Scotland there doesn't seem to be an appropriate tag in use. I like amenity=outdoor_education_centre as a generic enough name that conveys the purpose and signifies that it isn't a school or a leisure centre. Al. On 21/01/2016 12:47, SK53 wrote: > A quick check on taginfo only directed me to one Outward Bound centre (that > in Eskdale Green), and that is just tagged as a building. They have 6 > centres. Another organisation rather different in scope is the Field Studies > Council with around 12 centres. Provision by LEA is declining (the Castleton > centre is now a Youth Hostel), but better off schools will often have their > own dedicated centre. Plas-y-Brenin [1], which is more directly sport > oriented, is only mapped as buildings.. > > These are fairly distinct institutions with a mix of education & leisure > objectives: with their primary role being education (certainly from a > financial perspective & the need to have instructors DBS (CRB) checked). If > we had a widely used top-level education key, I'd use that, but as most, if > not all, education-related places use the amenity key, that's where I'd > start. So I'd suggest something like amenity=outdoor_education_centre or > amenity=outdoor_learning_centre. Sub-tagging could be used to distinguish > those with a bent towards physical activities versus those which do field > study. > > Plas-y-Brenin does fit the leisure=sports_centre suggested by DanS. > > There must be at least a hundred, if not several hundred such facilities in > the UK. I'm aware of similar places in many alpine villages in the Swiss Alps > (e.g., a " Ferien- und Schulungszentrum" near Ilanz), and passed the "Maison > des Salines" [2] in Brittany, shortly after SotM-France. ( The latter appears > to be used as a Colonie des Vacances, so I tagged this as > leisure=holiday_camp.). Therefore I would think there are good reasons not to > try & coerce these places into an existing tagging scheme. > > In addition to ones providing accommodation & classroom facilites, many > wildlife trusts, and similar bodies, have smaller centres for non residential > courses. Ones I know well are: Attenborough Nature Centre, Idle Valley Rural > Learning Centre [3], and the Wyre Forest Discovery Centre [4]. Many of these > will share a building with a cafe and shop and perhaps other facilities. > > On a closing note, one of my favourite such places at Gibraltar Point, which > I stayed at as recently as November 2012, was wrecked by a storm surge in > 2013 [5]. > > Jerry > > On 21 January 2016 at 08:10, Dan S <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I don't have a good answer, but I had a similar problem when trying to >> tag a "Go Ape" outdoor centre last year. If you search for "Go Ape" >> you find many different taggings around the country, including: >> >> leisure=sports_centre >> tourism=attraction >> tourism=theme_park >> leisure=high_ropes_course >> leisure=playground >> >> Possibly one of the top three is suitable for this? I'd like to hear >> what other people think. >> >> Best >> Dan >> >> 2016-01-20 23:17 GMT+00:00 <[email protected]>: >>> Hi again, >>> >>> thanks for the responses to my last question. >>> >>> I'm now trying to correct the tagging for an Outdoor Education Centre. It >>> has been tagged (understandably in my point of view) as amenity=school but >>> obviously isn't a school. So the question is, what should it be tagged as? >>> I've looked through the wiki and can't see anything relevant but I'm aware >>> that the knowledge in this group sometimes surpasses that of the wiki. >>> >>> The centre in question is Lagganlia http://www.lagganlia.com/ near Aviemore >>> in the Highlands which is owned by City of Edinburgh. I fondly remember >>> going there 3 or 4 times for Geography field trips and school skiing weeks >>> 20 years ago. >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your help. >>> >>> Al. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Talk-GB mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb Links: ------ [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/374805099#map=18/53.10222/-3.91711 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/94079741 [3] http://www.nnc.ac.uk/idle-valley-rural-learning-centre [4] http://www.forestry.gov.uk/forestry/infd-6frd7h [5] http://www.lincstrust.org.uk/gibraltar-point-education
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