Hi Many thanks for this. I take your point about the use of an OS specific term. It would be good to have a consensus on a suitable designation tag and an addition to the wiki on UK rights of way to cover its use.
As suggested, I will try and contact the highways department to see if they will confirm the actual access for this particular highway. Kind Regards Dudley > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2016 18:34:29 +0000 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Other Routes With Public Access > > On 13 February 2016 at 14:57, Dudley Ibbett <[email protected]> wrote: > > I came across a paved single lane "road" on a recent walk that was sign > > posted in both directions as a "Public Road" It makes a loop between two > > "unclassified" roads. > > Functionally, is seems to be a service route for an isolated farm that sits > > at the top of the loop, although it would make quite an useful link road > > between the two "unclassified" roads . I crossed it at the top of the loop > > so I don't know what there was with regards to signs at each end. On the OS > > 1:25 it is marked as "Other Routes With Public Access". Is there anything I > > can infer from the use of the term "Public Road". i.e foot, horse, bicycle, > > vehicle = yes/no? How are people tagging the "designation" of such routes, > > i.e. are people using "designation=other routes with public access"? > > Routes marked by OS as "Other Route with Public Access" will most > probably be routes that appear on the local Highway Authority's "List > of Streets Maintainable at the Public Expense", but are not maintained > to a standard for regular motor traffic. They will generally be > Unclassified Highways (i.e. not an A, B or C road) and unless there is > a specific Traffic Regulation Order to the contrary, there will be > full vehicle, horse and pedestrian rights over them. > > As far as tagging is concerned, I would strongly advise against > designation="other routes with public access", designation=orpa and > similar. The "Other Route with Public Access" is an OS-specific term, > and even if that status hasn't been copied from OS, such tagging may > give the impression that it may have been -- which is not something we > want to give or accidentally encourage. > > Instead, I would suggest that mappers do their best to determine the > precise status of the route in question -- which is most likely to be > an Unclassified Highway. Then an appropriate designation=* tag can be > given (e.g. designation=unclassified_highway). Despite a route > technically being an Unclassified Highway, if the route isn't suitable > for general motor traffic, I would avoid tagging it with > highway=unclassified -- as that would be misleading to data consumers. > Instead I'd give it a suitable highway tag based on the physical > condition of the route -- probably highway=track or highway=service. > > Appropriate access tags should also be used (access=yes if everything > is allowed, and foot=*, horse=*, bicycle=*, motor_vehicle=* etc if > not) since routers and other tools shouldn't be expected to translate > UK-specific terms into access defaults. There are some more details > about different types of Rights of Way and the implied access rights > at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Rjw62/PRoW_Table > > To determine the precise classification of a road/track, you'll need > the "List of Streets Maintainable at the Public Expense" from the > local Highway Authority (usually the County Council or Unitary > Authority). Some councils will have online maps of their Highways, but > these will generally be derived from OS data, and so we're unable to > make use of them. For details about getting hold of this "List of > Streets" and permission to re-use it in OSM, see > http://robert.mathmos.net/osm/prow/council-docs.html . There's a > (short) list of councils known to have given permission so far at > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Information_in_the_.22List_of_Streets.22_maintained_by_local_councils > > Hope that helps, > > Robert. > > -- > Robert Whittaker > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
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