Despite the problems of these edits (incorrect tagging, bad polygons) more than anything they reflect that OSM as a project lacks good tags for many of these boreo-temperate upland features, and whilst that is true there will be always be someone abusing existing tags. I think most mappers remember the initial thrill of seeing changes come through on the main map style: for some people it's probably still a primary motivator.
I therefore think Brian's suggestions of working collectively to map these areas better together with a more in-depth consideration of the relevant tagging is the way to go: and landuse=unimproved_grassland at the very least has the advantage of being correct. I have compared several location in Wales with my own photographs and the former CCW Phase 1 Habitat shape file, and acidic or neutral unimproved grassland is the classification of the majority of these locations. (I'm not sure of the status of this latter data: my copy is for private use only, but if it was released as Open Data it would be very useful. One word of caution the data was compiled over a long period and in some places will be out-of-date.) I'm always reluctant to delete stuff from OSM, unless it can be replaced by something better. Grassland tagging is a mess in OSM: let's use this as an opportunity to improve it for OSM in the UK. One last thing: I'm not very keen on calling people out on a public mailing list. The nature of OSM is that one knows nothing of many mappers (Frederik talked about this at SotM-14): there is always a risk of doing more than hurting their feelings. Regards, Jerry On 8 February 2017 at 21:46, Brian Prangle <[email protected]> wrote: > I came across glucosamine during the farmyards quarterly projectwhere > she/he'd tagged place=farm to every group of isolated buildings all over > Herefordshire. I think he/she means well just misinterprets tagging > conventions and then rolls on regardless. > > Might we tackle this task under the general heading either of "landuse > fixes" or "uplands" as our next quarterly project? That gives us some time > to discuss approaches, conventions , progress tools etc so that we can hit > the ground running so to speak on day 1 > > Regards > > Brian > > On 8 February 2017 at 21:35, Richard Fairhurst <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Marco Boeringa wrote: >> > There may be more... All of these "users" are prolific, leave almost >> > no changeset comments, and seem to be editing all day. It seems >> > to me these are editors working professionally for some OSM >> > related company. >> >> Thanks for the detective work and for persisting with this. >> >> I think it's very unlikely, however, that these users are editing OSM for >> a >> company. Probably the majority of edits in the UK are done by what you >> might >> call "lone mappers". Generally this works well and people plough their own >> furrows successfully, happily modifying their practice if particular >> issues >> are pointed out to them. But occasionally we have people who (perhaps >> because of limited social skills) find it difficult to follow established >> practice and co-operate with other contributors. There have been several >> examples in the past and I'm sure many regulars here will be aware of a >> few >> of them. >> >> That's what I think we have here. I have no knowledge as to whether >> Glucosamine, Dyserth and Sam888 are the same person or not - it wouldn't >> surprise me either way. But they/he very much fit the "uncommunicative >> lone >> mapper" model. >> >> cheers >> Richard >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com >> /Large-swaths-of-heath-in-Wales-tp5890778p5890908.html >> Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > >
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