On 04/07/2019 16:39, Martin Wynne wrote:
On 04/07/2019 16:11, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:

In OSM we map *physical* objects only.

In rural areas there are many places where buses are timetabled to stop but where there is nothing physical -- no signpost or shelter.

These are still 'physical' in the sense that they exist in the timetable & Naptan documents. (Think also boundaries which don't have dashed lines painted across fields)


Are these highway=bus_stop in OSM?

As a guesstimate, if they came from the naptan import, then probably yes


The wiki for highway says "Can be mapped more rigorously using public_transport=stop_position for the position where the vehicle stops and public_transport=platform for the place where passengers wait.

It's disappointing to see, once again, the PT schema developers hi-jacking wiki pages to enforce their schema. The comments column is meant to describe how to use the tag not promote alternatives. This needs changing.


"public_transport=stop_position for the position where the vehicle stops"
But that's not happening, is it? it's being wastefully duplicated on the highway=bus_stop which is most often at the pole/sign location, not on the highway.

highway=bus_stop is perfectly adequate to locate the place where people wait for a bus. 'platform' is redundant

PTv2 is a complete mess. it needs rescinding.

DaveF

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