OSNI have said in a Twitter discussion today that they will remove the link to the LPS licence, to make it clear that normal OGL terms apply to this data:
https://twitter.com/owenboswarva/status/1164159795622043648 If you source the NI administrative boundaries from the Open Data NI site (instead of the OSNI site) it already says the plain OGL applies, e.g. https://www.opendatani.gov.uk/dataset/osni-open-data-largescale-boundaries-county-boundaries1 Owen On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 21:16, SK53 <sk53....@gmail.com> wrote: This query would actually be better directed at talk-ie as the Irish OSM > local chapter have been having discussions with OSNI (and OSI). > > However, I think it's safe to say that the relevant licence is not (yet) > compatible with OSM: I did briefly discuss this point with one of the Open > Data NI people who organised OpenData Camp #5 in Belfast, and she was > certainly of the view that OSNI data (or any LPS data) was not very open. > Many of these datasets would be very useful, for instance there is a point > data set of streetnames (e.g., when the name of this bit > <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/392283077> of street was being > questioned, or just to do streetnames which are perhaps 10% completed). > > It is for this reason why there are no local authority boundaries in NI. > However, at some point I used FHRS data to produce concave hulls which > would be a first approximation (and no worse than things like the Limerick > boundary 3-4 years ago). Also KDDA has some open data for the old Fermanagh > district (on umap here > <https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/fermanagh-road-signs_290510#9/54.3614/-7.5142>) > which may assist in working out the boundaries (as will townland and other > boundaries). But do check with talk-ie before leaping in. > > At one point maps.openstreetmap.ie had a number of overlay layers sourced > from the OSI/OSNI data, but I think these never got restored after the > server move. I used OSNI townland boundaries to compare with OSM ones back > in 2015. > > Jerry > > On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 at 18:42, Colin Smale <colin.sm...@xs4all.nl> wrote: > >> Has anyone investigated if the data covering Northern Ireland which OSNI >> make available under OGL V3, is licence-compatible with OSM in the same way >> as the OSGB open data? I am particularly interested in admin boundaries, >> e.g. >> http://osni-spatial-ni.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/a55726475f1b460c927d1816ffde6c72_2 >> >> The website says: "Open Government Data Licence applies. Land & >> Property Services (LPS) has made a number of Ordnance Survey of Northern >> Ireland® (OSNI®) branded datasets available free of charge under the terms >> of the current Open Government Licence (OGL). These datasets – which >> include raster and vector mapping, boundary, gazetteer, height, street and >> townland products – are available for download. Each dataset is clearly >> marked with the OGL symbol. The OGL allows you to: copy, distribute and >> transmit the data; adapt the data; and exploit the data commercially, >> whether by sub-licensing it, combining it with other data, or including it >> in your own product or application. You are therefore able to use the LPS >> datasets in any way and for any purpose. We simply ask that you acknowledge >> the copyright and the source of the data by including the following >> attribution statement: Contains LPS Intellectual Property © Crown copyright >> and database right (year) This information is licensed under the terms of >> the Open Government Licence ( >> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/doc/open-government-licence/version/3). >> You must also: include the same acknowledgement requirement in any >> sub-licences of the data that you grant, and a requirement that any further >> sub-licences do the same; ensure that you do not use the data in a way that >> suggests LPS endorses you or your use of the data; and make sure you do not >> misrepresent the data or its source. N.B. Any dataset that does not >> expressly state that it has been released under OGL will require a licence >> from LPS and the appropriate licence fee will be applied." >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > _______________________________________________ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >
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