Hi Nick
I like the two stage approach - surveying then mapping. It would work
well - some of my friends like walking but can't map to save their life,
whereas I can't walk far but love mapping - Win Win for us all.
May I suggest that a layer be created for JOSM with all the paths and
their details as provided for MapThePaths. Personally I find it easier
to work with JOSM and I have learnt to create a style to highlight
PROW's, but I don't know how to create a JOSM layer.
Separate layers would allow us to manually transfer from PROW layer to
MAP layer thus avoiding the mechanical import rules, and would allow us
to manually conflate where a path is already mapped but PROW data is absent.
A layer containing the surveyed GPS data so that all the sources we need
are available would be awesome.
I may be asking for a workflow that is close to existing, if that is the
case I am able to test and document the workflow for the UK wiki if that
would be helpful.
Tony Shield
TonyS999
On 13/05/2020 18:11, Nick Whitelegg wrote:
Oops... sorry one or two editing errors in the last paragraph.
I meant to say:
"They [the non-expert user] select ROW type and path surface via a
nice interface, and then a tagged GPX trace is generated, *with
trksegs tagged with ROW designation and surface* (which was done by
the first version of the app anyway). This is then uploaded to the
MapThePaths server, and volunteer expert users *are alerted*. Said
expert user then downloads the GPX trace and, *using the tags in the
trksegs of the GPX* then edits in JOSM, perhaps via a JOSM plugin - or
even directly in the MapThePaths web app. (I am possibly thinking of
adding way creation into the MapThePaths web app anyway, time depending)."
Nick
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*From:* Nick Whitelegg
*Sent:* 13 May 2020 18:08
*To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org <talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>
*Subject:* Rights of way mapping - making it easy for newcomers to OSM
(perhaps!)
Hi,
Just to continue with the theme of rights of way mapping, I've been
noticing that there are still large tracts of England and Wales away
from the 'honeypot' areas with little or now ROW mapping at all
meaning there's still quite a big job to be done.
As you may remember I have been developing a companion app to
MapThePaths. In the first version of this (around two years ago) I
experimented with auto-converting GPX traces to OSM ways. However I
was dissatisfied with the results, the ways generated were really
rather nasty and I ended up having to prettify them significantly in
JOSM afterwards, rendering the auto-creation facility a little
pointless. Consequently later versions of the app have focused on
merely presenting the council and OSM data overlaid (like the
website), with only limited editing facilities, to change the
designation of a path.
However (and I may have mentioned this before, it's been a while) I am
wondering about a 'two-user' approach in which a new user merely does
the GPX survey, using an easy to use UI (a refined version of the
MapThePaths app with the UI re-designed by someone more versed in UX
than myself).
They select ROW type and path surface via a nice interface, and then a
tagged GPX trace is generated (which was done by the first version of
the app anyway). This is then uploaded to the MapThePaths server, and
volunteer expert users. Said expert user then downloads the GPX trace
and then edits in JOSM, perhaps via a JOSM plugin - or even directly
in the MapThePaths web app. (I am possibly thinking of adding way
creation into the MapThePaths web app anyway, time depending).
Any thoughts?
Thanks,
Nick
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