Hi

On https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sustrans the first line is '*Sustrans* is a UK walking and cycling charity and custodian of the National Cycle Network <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Cycle_Network>.' Custodian is the important term.

The Sustrans website https://www.sustrans.org.uk/for-professionals/infrastructure/national-cycle-network-design-principles/ does not make that claim (please correct me) but the whole of the site suggests it is the custodian and that they make decisions about the NCN.

As Sustrans is described as the custodian and its website infers/implies that it is, then unless a route is on their website or literature it is not part of the NCN. OSM does not have the right to make a decision like that no matter how good the intentions.

So please do not tag as ncn; but please keep as a route.

As the route is tagged mtb I think that it may not meet the design principles as shown on the referred  Sustrans page.

Tony - TonyS999

On 12/07/2020 11:34, Adam Snape wrote:
Hi,

A mapper has recently added a long mountain bike route to OSM and there has been a difference of opinions in the changeset comments https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/87757341 .So I thought I'd share here to try to achieve some community consensus.

Personally I'm concerned that it appears to be an undiscussed import without explicit copyright owner permission, possibly containing OS-derived data. It goes against the general principle that we only map what's on the ground, potentially opening the floodgates for all kinds of such unmarked  routes. The route is tagged as ncn despite not being part of the National Cycle Network and as a mountain bike route is largely unsuitable for general bicycle routing.

Does anybody have any further thoughts? I'll make the original mapper aware of this discussion.

Kind regards,

Adam

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