The update on the FOIA request
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr
is worth a read!! Makes you wonder at the value of releasing open data
that has limited value to the public?
On 01/08/2020 20:24, Nick wrote:
As a follow up, Robert Whittaker also submitted an FOI asking for "...
a list of all UPRNs that are classified as 'historic', and a separate
list of all those classified as a 'parent' ....". the logicto me was
that this would help users of Open Data to then filter these out. The
response that this was "exempt from disclosure under section 21 of the
FOIA" - if you are interested follow the link to
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/lists_of_historic_and_parent_upr
I was also interested regarding the details of the batch allocation to
each custodian. So apart from the commercial value, this is unlikely
to be published as apparently this might be misleading due to the
randomness of the data and likely to be out of date quickly.
So much for the potential for collaboration with the various authorities.
On 06/07/2020 15:10, Nick wrote:
Hi Jez
To clarify, what I did was to find a 'suspicious' UPRN (two pins on
one building with different address details). I then looked up the
address on an online system (e.g. OneScotlandGazetteer or the local
authority online Planning system) to check the details (UPRN and
address). That allowed me to have details, which in this instance I
then checked property sites (e.g. ESPC) to verify the 'likely' error.
If you want more details of the example, let me know and I can put a
bit more detail together.
Cheers
Nick
On 06/07/2020 12:34, Jez Nicholson wrote:
Sorry, i mean 'findmyaddress'.
Also, from this Twitter thread
https://twitter.com/jnicho02/status/1279821108783579139?s=20 I note
that some streets have a UPRN. Existing services filter them out.
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, 12:29 Jez Nicholson, <jez.nichol...@gmail.com
<mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Do you mean that you looked up the UPRN on findmystreet and it's
supposedly in a different location to the latlon in the file?
On Mon, 6 Jul 2020, 12:26 Nick, <n...@foresters.org
<mailto:n...@foresters.org>> wrote:
So I have just started with my crude system and already
found one UPRN
that looks as if it is in the wrong location (wrong postcode
6BT > 6ST ~
and wrong county). If I am correct, then this demonstrates
the value of
opening up data to more 'eyes'. Not sure how we could
collate all lists
of anomalies to demonstrate this to government.
On 06/07/2020 12:09, Nick wrote:
> I went for the crude approach as my computer is not that
powerful, so
> I split the CSV into chunks and imported batches into QGIS
with
> county/postcode boundaries as my interest is trying to
understand how
> the UPRNs have been batched. Not elegant but means that I
now can
> focus on our area and identify those UPRNs that are most
useful to me
> for plotting missing rural properties. I can then write a
script to
> only give me those UPRNs of interest. As I say, crude but
useful to me
> as I can now start to match addresses to UPRN when I add
properties.
>
> On 05/07/2020 20:56, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:
>> On 05.07.2020 18:45, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:
>>> On 05.07.2020 17:51, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>>> Naive question - can that be added as a layer in JOSM?
If so, how?
>>> I'll have to check whether I can manage that anyway with
the new server
>>> now. Will come back to this.
>> Meh. 3 hours in, every possible lead I had didn't bring
me closer to
>> setting up the UPRN data in the same way.
>>
>> Having 6 GiB of GeoPackage or 2 GiB of MySQL data doesn't
make working
>> with the data any easier.
>>
>> I will look out for help from the GeoServer people during
the week,
>> watch this space :)
>>
>> K
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