Hi,

Apologies if I have not seen to this earlier, but if measurements from OSM are 
crucial, then what about a route_master structure for the NHs and SHs 
(according to the guidance at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:route#Members)?

It would allow each direction to have its own relation and then we can easily 
get the average distance from the two. It just seems odd that only one side is 
measured.

— Amaroussi.

> On 24 Jul 2016, at 17:48, Naveen Francis <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi 
> 
> Statewise NH relations are created for more accurate NH lengths. 
> It is used is wikipedia directly. 
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_India_by_State#Andhra_Pradesh
>  
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Highways_in_India_by_State#Andhra_Pradesh>,
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roads_in_Kerala#National_Highways 
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roads_in_Kerala#National_Highways>)
> Appreciate if it is not changed, without any good proposals. 
> Lot of work has gone behind that. 
> Every month new highway notifications from govt gazatte are mapped. 
> Errors in NH are documented here. 
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:India:National_Highways_(statewise) 
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:India:National_Highways_(statewise)>
> 
> Thanks, 
> naveenpf 
> 
> 
> On 24 July 2016 at 17:05, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> It appears there was an oversight in one of changesets for the NH44 
> relations, where I should have checked that the members were still in the 
> original NH44 relation. The error occurred when I was ordering the NH44 
> relation.
> 
>> On 24 Jul 2016, at 11:27, I Chengappa <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Heinz_V has made relevant comments in a forum post at 
>> http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=17851&p=3 
>> <http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=17851&p=3>. I've not been 
>> paying attention to most road / route relations, but I understand that there 
>> has been a coherent mapping of national highways in India, mostly due to 
>> him, which has now been broken. As the discussion has primarily been there 
>> so far, I suggest that it should continue there. 
>> 
>> This discussion, between two users over one day and in a separate forum from 
>> that discussion, does not constitute general acceptance, even by default. 
>> Hence there is an argument for reverting the changes. 
>> 
>> On 21 July 2016 at 16:25, Arun Ganesh <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> This is looking good to me. It would be great to have a diary post on 
>> tools/workflow to do this. Have always found handling and modifying these 
>> relations painful.
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Amaroussi (OpenStreetMap) <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have set up NH765 as a prototype for the reformed relations - NH765 is a 
>> small route where it should be easy to fine tune the idea before full-scale 
>> conversion.
>> 
>> The base route (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3871741 
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/3871741>) would only contain 
>> sub-relations with for each State that it passes through with appropriate 
>> role names (as the E-route system already does).
>> 
>> The sub-relations, for Telangana 
>> (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5826946 
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5826946>) and Andhra Pradesh 
>> (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5826980 
>> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5826980>) in our case, would contain 
>> appropriately ordered ways, with the main route on top and links (slip 
>> roads) at the bottom.
>> 
>> I envisage that one relation for each state should be sufficient for the 
>> time being.
>> 
>> — Amaroussi.
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