1. The osm-ph community.
>Who is the "community"?
The OpenStreetMap community is composed of a growing number of contributors and
users who strive to improve the data in their own ways.
>What characterize a PH OSMer?
A typical OpenStreetMap
user/contributor in the Philippines is someone with a considerable
knowledge on Philippine geography (especially one's local area), gadgets that
have something to do with cartography and navigation, and uses
OpenStreetMap to complete/accomplish certain goals, like finding a shortcut or
discovering new places.
>How do we map?
We map using conventional and sometimes unconventional techniques.
>What are the innovative ways we do to improve the map?
I haven't think of any [yet]
>Are the data users part of this community?
They are part of the community since they contribute to OSM indirectly
[example: notes gathered from persons who have recently traveled to a certain
area]
>Is the talk-ph list and discussions here a representative sample of the osm-ph
>community?
Not really, though I believe that some contributors should participate in the
discussions in the mailing list once in a while.
2. How do we use the data? Or other ways you have used the data?
OpenStreetMap was used as a reference in a thesis by a student from the
University of the Philippines Los Baños (he graduated last April 2011) while A
map based on OpenStreetMap data is used by a not-for profit organization and a
barangay in Los Baños, Laguna. Some drivers and travelers use OpenStreetMap
data as a reference tool.
3. Issues and concerns.
>Why are we growing in some areas but not in others?
Maybe we haven't got enough media exposure. Maybe we haven't reached out to
other mappers who need to refine their edits a little bit more (especially the
tagging). Maybe they reside in an area without high-res imagery. Or maybe we
have some of the same problems that Wikipedia has or used to have (For example,
inaccurate data. Though other online maps have inaccurate data, I believe that
we are being singled out since we aren't that "established" compared to
Mapmaker and WIkimapia)
>How do you gauge our relationship with other crowdsource mapping initiative in
>the country (google mapmaker, roadguide.ph, wikimapia)?
So far, only a couple of contributors from those sites have contributed to
OpenStreetMap with varying results.
4. The future.
>How do you see the state of PH data in a year or two?
We are going to breach the 100,000 kilometers of roads mark [based on a figure
from http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ph/2011-August/003466.html ].
>What should be done to further improve and expand data coverage?
We can encourage college students, locals and bloggers to try out and edit and
use OpenStreetMap while simultaneously promoting it through old and new media.
We can also conduct 3-4 mapping parties (to improve OpenStreetMap's coverage in
a certain area), at least 2-3 skillshares and/or meetups and a couple of
meetings/talks/lectures per year. Who knows, we *might* host The State of the
Map or the Asian version of it!
5. Other concerns
Maybe I should send them an email that their edits need refinement (Example:
"You may try to tag [Name of a residential area] as place=locality or
landuse=residential instead of place=village since the place=village tag is
used for barangays" or "You don't have to add "name=Rice field" on a rice field
and tag it as a meadow. Tag it as landuse=farm and crops=rice" or "town
halls/municipios should be tagged as amenity=townhall and not place=village and
name=[Name of town] Town Hall) instead of editing them directly. I think that I
should give the less experienced ones an opportunity to "clean the milk that
they've spilled"
Postscript: I am working on the Philippines' contribution to How do you map in.
(Go to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Ianlopez1115/HDYM if you want
to help out.)
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From: maning sambale <[email protected]>
To: OpenStreetMap Philippines <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2011 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the Map
2011
Dear everyone,
I am know collating my mental notes in preparation for the "State of
the PH" lightning talk for SOTM2011. And since this is a community
presentation, I might as well ask you on what we should be
presenting.
The primary source materials of my talk is the wiki [0,1,2] and of
course, this list [3]. For sure the OSM-PH data has grown tremendously
in the the past 2 years. There a number of factors that may have
contributed to this growth. I would like to focus the presentation on
on 4 main points. Perhaps you can help me develop the discussion.
1. The osm-ph community. Who is the "community"? What characterize a
PH OSMer? How do we map? What are the innovative ways we do to
improve the map? Are the data users part of this community? Is the
talk-ph list and discussions here a representative sample of the osm-ph
community?
2. How do we use the data? Some sample of data useage we can
illustrate. Maybe a ph brewed mapping application? Or other ways you
have used the data? If there are any,
please provide a link or description and a
screenshot.
3. Issues and concerns. Why are we growing in some areas but not
in others? How do you guage our relationship with other crowdsource
mapping initiative in the country (google mapmaker, roadguide.ph, wikimapia)?
4. The future. How do you see the state of PH data in a year or two?
What should be done to further improve and expand data coverage?
If you any thoughts, just send them here or as a PM. Thanks!
[0] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines
[1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Timeline
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Featured_images
[3] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 2:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, State of <country> talks are always well-received by the
> attendees. You can always talk about mapping activities in the
> Philippines. :-)
>
> And this wiki page needs some love:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/Timeline
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 9:31 PM, maning
sambale
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> FYI, I got my visa application approved for the SOTM 2011 conf.
I
>> will start preparing for our (possible) OSM-PH talk. Any ideas what
>> we should discuss for this year in behalf of the osm-ph community?
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 12:18 PM, maning sambale
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> FYI,
>>>
>>> The old nominees for the past SOTM scholarships are: Maning, Eugene and
>>> Murlwe
>>>
>>> Maning and Eugene are interested to try their luck again this time.
>>> Murlwe declined due to personal commitments. If there are others
>>> interested to participate as an OSM-PH representative for this
>>> scholarship, please tell us, as we prepare the nominations letter.
>>> Of course you can nominate yourself and
send them directly to
the
>>> scholarship organizers.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Andre,
>>>>
>>>> I agree that it's a bit tight. But I asked my officemate who went to
>>>> the US last year and he said that he had a rush US visa application
>>>> since he has a conference to attend in connection with his MBA. He got
>>>> his appointment schedule in 2 weeks and the processing took 1 week.
>>>>
>>>> So maybe it's possible. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Eugene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Andre Marcelo-Tanner
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> Wow, when are they gonna decide
>>>>> does anyone already have a US visa?
>>>>> <3 months to get a visa isnt the best timetable :)
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3:59 AM, maning sambale wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hoping we can finally send a Filipino rep.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Coast, Hurricane<[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 4:35 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [OSM-talk] Scholarship program to State of the Map
2011
>>>>>> To: "[email protected]"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The State of the Map Committee is excited to announce a program to
>>>>>> cover full travel and accommodations costs for mappers to attend State
>>>>>> of the Map 2011 in Denver, Colorado (United States). We’re seeking
>>>>>> nominations from the community for potential mappers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are seeking people from places where costs would prohibit
>>>>>> attendance, developing countries, and places that are
“interesting”
>>>>>> geopolitically. The ideal candidates for funding are from countries
>>>>>> with a small OSM
community, perhaps just a few mappers in total. They
>>>>>> have made a significant start at mapping their city, either through
>>>>>> imagery or with their own GPS, and are directly familiar with the
>>>>>> process of OSM. They may have started communicating among themselves,
>>>>>> and made plans and scoped out the process for their local district.
>>>>>> But, the community is nowhere near critical mass, and they need the
>>>>>> inspiration and support to take OSM to the next level.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need to act fast! State of the Map is just over 3 and a half months
>>>>>> away, tickets and visas need to be arranged. In order to allow enough
>>>>>> time for all the arrangements, the nomination period will be short,
>>>>>>
and ending at Sunday, June 25th. The number of scholarships rewarded
>>>>>> will be based on the success of fund-raising. From the nominations
>>>>>> received, we’ll review and invite scholars in late June.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please send your nominations to [email protected]. For
>>>>>> each nomination, include the mappers name, OSM user name, email
>>>>>> address, location, and a paragraph or two on why they’d be great to
>>>>>> have at SOTM. Self nominations are accepted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please forward this message to other relevant local OSM and mapping
>>>>>> lists and social
media!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
As for regions, here are a few regions that seem to fit the bill, but
>>>>>> nominations are not limited to these places at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Eastern and Southern Europe: Belarus, Kosovo, Bulgaria
>>>>>> Arab States: Tunisia, Bahrain, Jordan
>>>>>> Asia: Nepal, Afghanistan, Cambodia, Indonesia
>>>>>> Latin America: Argentina, Bolivia, Guatemala
>>>>>> Africa: Liberia, Ivory Coast, Swaziland
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sponsor-a-Mapper
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In previous years there has been a scholarship program to help mappers
>>>>>> who wouldn’t otherwise be able to attend get to State of the Map. This
>>>>>> year we are announces an “Sponsor-A-Mapper” program. There are
plenty
>>>>>> of deserving individuals from all of the world that can’t afford to
>>>>>> attend SotM. To help them be able to come join the community in person
>>>>>> in Denver why don’t you consider paying to cover a portion of the cost
>>>>>> of their ticket?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are attempting to raise an average of $2,500 USD per mapper in
>>>>>> order to be sure to cover their costs. This will vary slightly by
>>>>>> transportation costs depending from where the select scholarships are
>>>>>> traveling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The more money we raise the more mappers we can sponsor!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To Sponsor-a-Mapper please email [email protected]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> cheers,
>>> maning
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
>>>
blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
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>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> cheers,
>> maning
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden
>> wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/
>> blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/
>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>
>
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cheers,
maning
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