Hello everyone, There are 2 additional HOT Tasks that have been created:
1. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 - Mapping villages in Samar and Leyte (just the residential areas and roads, no need for buildings) 2. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 - Mapping in detail selected areas that are known to have been highly affected by the typhoon On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Andrew Buck <andrew.r.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > I agree that wider coverage will be needed and I had hoped that by now > we would have a better indication of where to map as well. My reason > for staying with Tacloban for so long was largely due to lack of > knowing where else to shift focus to (although I did allude to this a > bit by suggesting the other villages on the coast northeast of > Tacloban), more importantly due to a second fact... > > When we map an area, it is only really useful for us to map areas that > the aid organizations we work with will be responding to. For the aid > organizations that don't know about, or don't know how to use, our > map; then no matter how good the coverage is, it doesn't help them. > This is the main reason I chose to focus on Tacloban. It is badly hit > (as were many other places as you rightly point out) but it is also a > provincial capital, and it is the largest town in the immediate area. > Because of this I figured that most of the international response > would likely be directed there, and since it is mostly the > international orgs that we tend to work with I figured the map data > would be most useful there. > > Now, that being said I want to make it clear that the explanation > above is not necessarily an argument for continuing to focus entirely > on Tacloban, just merely an explanation of why I hadn't directed > people elsewhere yet. I agree that we will need to spread out our > efforts at some point, and that point may be approaching, the question > is where to focus next. As I mentioned previously, I think the > villages along the coast to the northeast will be hard hit (and due to > their proximity to Tacloban will likely receive international aid). > There are also villages along the coast to the south of Tacloban that > will have been hit hard as well since the eye passed directly over > them. The eye track will likely have done the most damage, or the > area to the north of the eye track since the storm rotates > counterclockwise as it moves westward. > > If anyone has better suggestions of where to spread out to I am > certainly open to them. Like I said I am not saying we need to stay > at Tacloban (and the surrounding area) just explaining why I was > continuing focus there. I know the storm affected a lot to the west > as well but I figured this would be trickier to map for two reasons. > 1) it is a larger area with not such and obvious target for > international aid, and 2) the wind speeds were lower to the west due > to the storm being disrupted by the islands. As for the idea of > mapping the area affected by the earthquake to the south, my > understanding (and this could be wrong) was that most of what we could > do remotely has already been done when the earthquake hit. > > So that is all of my reasoning at the current time for our current > focus. I hope to begin hearing more concrete info from aid orgs today > so I might redirect people when I hear from them, but for now my > advice would be to try to continue with Tacloban (especially the low > lying areas) and simultaneously spread out into the surrounding > villages until/unless we get something concrete from an aid org. > > - -AndrewBuck > > > > > On 11/09/2013 05:25 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: > > Hi, > > > > According to Al Jazeera, the death toll could be very high, sadly. > > And several millions of people have been affected. > > > > I'd like to remind that an often-mentioned weakness of OSM is the > > uneven quality of the coverage, and that it is not because you have > > a hammer that everything is a nail. > > > > So, while Tacloban was indeed hit very badly, and a detailed > > building map there is undoubtedly useful, it might also be useful > > if some of the mappers who wish to contribute took a broader view, > > to map, for example, some of the roads and villages that are > > visible on (sometimes recent) high resolution Bing imagery > > (http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/), but sometimes > > still unmapped in OSM. (Not to mention the rivers). > > > > GNS (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GNS) can also be a good > > source for names, even if it sometimes includes old versions of > > duplicated nodes with inaccurate location. High resolution imagery > > can be useful to tell which is right in these cases. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Jean-Guilhem > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ > > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJSfjttAAoJEK7RwIfxHSXbuyAQAJ7RN1Tqh04GWL0Gb03Tb+nQ > Z4sIRt4Z3wBdOte8MjB3B+W8zGYtUw3kwfbb3DV8tcdKpEiHzjc2+GrjLgoLzZCe > TvxHqFN5Q6srENG180WbZtA8gMESLV5xbeOSt5NU9xnqo24yggWSlAc7FoH2SOSp > 3aMNyrALeW03y406TUH4DwCIBmkwLMWZufdkzOnbwou0Ebd2CcYERepm3f+4ifQM > XI9o8jJt5fspYksaiePmRpMrS8Gn7UznYhzhOsPBbjGlP4wFbazNOsuwE2phBBss > wTX9awNSDqjv6EzebEzDN36I8hSeQEYxnsNrLWmaj/+xydxOfchxZlDKXhJm42Qe > zP0c+HakmZPORnmYCms1FHwjGzH5SKgApK3Vpaa+A/T8z+wqEaWmimhV/mX48aQx > I/pFTnwto+Df35htKYwU1U9xQ7BB+W1FizYqdkc84HaTyvcQkdfPM5YXzokmxLQz > QbP1quYE+M1sESfiZGqIrV2K1AL+NrrBbr1C6r6J9ICtj8swQZpoyvWcg3LR+UqF > 5prd7disNuZ6CPHQkLn+ChdPtC6A4gfXqAFEm2g54Pg5Q5t43Qg0DAVPl4bME5Y5 > I6KCE1zR/bA9ed+uwD7ALcorBGrWla1aylAx1P5RYO5XM0F3zeWzex29oyco2dQT > MyPsP+Btr9e23PyxVpsR > =Mv9K > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > talk-ph mailing list > talk-ph@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph >
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