Hello everyone,

Here are several additional HOT tasks:

http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/342 - Bantayan Island
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/343 - Camotes Islands
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/344 - Roxas City and surroundings
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/345 - northern Negros Occidental
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/346 - Roxas City - Kalibo - northernmost tip of
Iloilo
http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/347 - northern Cebu

If you know of any other areas that are affected by the typhoon and has
Bing satellite imagery, please do reply. For instance, I have suggested
that a task be created for Coron, Palawan.



On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Thank you to everyone who has helped in mapping the affected areas.
>
> Here are some statistics taken from OSMstats:
> http://osmstats.altogetherlost.com/index.php?item=countries&country=Philippines
>
> There have been about 120,000 nodes that have been added in the
> Philippines in the past 2 days. Though I don't have the exact numbers, that
> probably translates to around 20,000 buildings. The rest would be new
> roads, rivers, landuses, and improved coastlines.
>
> There have been at least 60 mappers editing in the Philippines in the last
> 2 days. The previous spike in the number of editors was in mid-October
> after the 7.2 earthquake that hit Bohol (http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/326).
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> There are 2 additional HOT Tasks that have been created:
>>
>> 1. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/339 - Mapping villages in Samar and Leyte
>> (just the residential areas and roads, no need for buildings)
>>
>> 2. http://tasks.hotosm.org/job/340 - Mapping in detail selected areas
>> that are known to have been highly affected by the typhoon
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 9:41 PM, Andrew Buck <andrew.r.b...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
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>>> I agree that wider coverage will be needed and I had hoped that by now
>>> we would have a better indication of where to map as well.  My reason
>>> for staying with Tacloban for so long was largely due to lack of
>>> knowing where else to shift focus to (although I did allude to this a
>>> bit by suggesting the other villages on the coast northeast of
>>> Tacloban), more importantly due to a second fact...
>>>
>>> When we map an area, it is only really useful for us to map areas that
>>> the aid organizations we work with will be responding to.  For the aid
>>> organizations that don't know about, or don't know how to use, our
>>> map; then no matter how good the coverage is, it doesn't help them.
>>> This is the main reason I chose to focus on Tacloban.  It is badly hit
>>> (as were many other places as you rightly point out) but it is also a
>>> provincial capital, and it is the largest town in the immediate area.
>>>  Because of this I figured that most of the international response
>>> would likely be directed there, and since it is mostly the
>>> international orgs that we tend to work with I figured the map data
>>> would be most useful there.
>>>
>>> Now, that being said I want to make it clear that the explanation
>>> above is not necessarily an argument for continuing to focus entirely
>>> on Tacloban, just merely an explanation of why I hadn't directed
>>> people elsewhere yet.  I agree that we will need to spread out our
>>> efforts at some point, and that point may be approaching, the question
>>> is where to focus next.  As I mentioned previously, I think the
>>> villages along the coast to the northeast will be hard hit (and due to
>>> their proximity to Tacloban will likely receive international aid).
>>> There are also villages along the coast to the south of Tacloban that
>>> will have been hit hard as well since the eye passed directly over
>>> them.  The eye track will likely have done the most damage, or the
>>> area to the north of the eye track since the storm rotates
>>> counterclockwise as it moves westward.
>>>
>>> If anyone has better suggestions of where to spread out to I am
>>> certainly open to them.  Like I said I am not saying we need to stay
>>> at Tacloban (and the surrounding area) just explaining why I was
>>> continuing focus there.  I know the storm affected a lot to the west
>>> as well but I figured this would be trickier to map for two reasons.
>>> 1) it is a larger area with not such and obvious target for
>>> international aid, and 2) the wind speeds were lower to the west due
>>> to the storm being disrupted by the islands.  As for the idea of
>>> mapping the area affected by the earthquake to the south, my
>>> understanding (and this could be wrong) was that most of what we could
>>> do remotely has already been done when the earthquake hit.
>>>
>>> So that is all of my reasoning at the current time for our current
>>> focus.  I hope to begin hearing more concrete info from aid orgs today
>>> so I might redirect people when I hear from them, but for now my
>>> advice would be to try to continue with Tacloban (especially the low
>>> lying areas) and simultaneously spread out into the surrounding
>>> villages until/unless we get something concrete from an aid org.
>>>
>>> - -AndrewBuck
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/09/2013 05:25 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > According to Al Jazeera, the death toll could be very high, sadly.
>>> > And several millions of people have been affected.
>>> >
>>> > I'd like to remind that an often-mentioned weakness of OSM is the
>>> > uneven quality of the coverage, and that it is not because you have
>>> > a hammer that everything is a nail.
>>> >
>>> > So, while Tacloban was indeed hit very badly, and a detailed
>>> > building map there is undoubtedly useful, it might also be useful
>>> > if some of the mappers who wish to contribute took a broader view,
>>> > to map, for example, some of the roads and villages that are
>>> > visible on (sometimes recent) high resolution Bing imagery
>>> > (http://osmph.github.io/Imagery_Coverage_Map/), but sometimes
>>> > still unmapped in OSM. (Not to mention the rivers).
>>> >
>>> > GNS (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GNS) can also be a good
>>> > source for names, even if it sometimes includes old versions of
>>> > duplicated nodes with inaccurate location. High resolution imagery
>>> > can be useful to tell which is right in these cases.
>>> >
>>> > Best wishes,
>>> >
>>> > Jean-Guilhem
>>> >
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