No, if they’re not clean, they need to be removed. They can’t be kept around and confirmed. Also, hiding and making visible contradict each other. Before using General Directorate of Highways maps you need to confirm that the license grants the necessary permissions.
From: H. Can Unen [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 12:42 AM To: Orkut Murat YILMAZ Cc: Paul Norman; [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [Talk-tr] HGK source Hello, HGK prohibits every action besides personal use of the purchased maps, so using HGK data as a source is wrong. However, there are other sources such as the road maps of Turkish General Directorate of Highways that we may be able to check and confirm those place names and change the source tags instead of deleting the nodes. Is there a way to hide the nodes from display, but make visible in the editor until a source that we can verify those place names is found? Can On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Orkut Murat YILMAZ <[email protected]> wrote: Dear Paul, Yes, HGK is the acronym for General Command of Mapping and I guess that they won't permit this situation. H. Can Ünen and me are going to try finding some official answers as soon as possible. Thanks for your warning. Best, Murat On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Paul Norman <[email protected]> wrote: > From: Paul Norman [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:08 PM > Subject: [Talk-tr] HGK source > > In early April I noticed a number of place=village created by Muthukumar > (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2250559178) with > source=HGK. > > At the time I wondered if they might be an import from a source that I > didn't recognize and contacted the user asking them what the source was, > but I haven't gotten a reply in the 10 days since I messaged them, so > I'm sending the question to a wider audience. Does anyone know what > source=HGK is? Some checks revealed a potentially wider problem. source=HGK appears to refer to Harita Genel Komutanlığı which is the official Turkish mapping agency. They apparently have no forms of open data or other license which we could use the data. My best guess is the original source of the data is http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/urunler/diger/gazetteer.html. The metadata has terms and conditions which would prevent their use in OSM. I looked at their webpage and couldn't find anything that would allow the use of their data in OSM. http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/yan_menu/sorular.asp#2 may be relevant and based on the Bing translation it might be allowing personal use, but not reproductions. Given the above, it looks like we're not allowed to use their data in OSM and it must be redacted (removed). I propose to start doing so later this week, after contacting katpatuka, Muthukumar, and Muruganantham, the three users who have created the most source=HGK objects. There a total of 31k objects, of which 28k are version 1. Most are by katpatuka and most are place=* nodes. _______________________________________________ Talk-tr mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr -- _______________________________________________ Talk-tr mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr
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