I wrote about this subject already to the list in September 2011:
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-tr/2011-September/000193.html
I just used
http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/urunler/diger/gazetteer/Turkey_and_Neighborhood_GAZ_011110_ing.xls
for the place names of villages and mountains - I did NOT import it but
manually added them
and adjusted them as needed because the data is good for reference but not
exact enough.
No "maps" where used.
Roman
Hello,
HGK prohibits every action besides personal use of the purchased maps, so
using HGK data as a source is wrong.
However, there are other sources such as the road maps of Turkish General
Directorate of Highways that we may be able to check and confirm those
place names and change the source tags instead of deleting the nodes.
Is there a way to hide the nodes from display, but make visible in the
editor until a source that we can verify those place names is found?
Can
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Orkut Murat YILMAZ <
[email protected]> wrote:
Dear Paul,
Yes, HGK is the acronym for General Command of Mapping and I guess that
they won't permit this situation.
H. Can Ünen and me are going to try finding some official answers as
soon
as possible.
Thanks for your warning.
Best,
Murat
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Paul Norman <[email protected]> wrote:
> From: Paul Norman [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2013 3:08 PM
> Subject: [Talk-tr] HGK source
>
> In early April I noticed a number of place=village created by
Muthukumar
> (e.g. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/2250559178) with
> source=HGK.
>
> At the time I wondered if they might be an import from a source that
I
> didn't recognize and contacted the user asking them what the source
was,
> but I haven't gotten a reply in the 10 days since I messaged them, so
> I'm sending the question to a wider audience. Does anyone know what
> source=HGK is?
Some checks revealed a potentially wider problem.
source=HGK appears to refer to Harita Genel Komutanlığı which is the
official Turkish mapping agency. They apparently have no forms of open
data
or other license which we could use the data.
My best guess is the original source of the data is
http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/urunler/diger/gazetteer.html. The metadata
has
terms and conditions which would prevent their use in OSM.
I looked at their webpage and couldn't find anything that would allow
the
use of their data in OSM.
http://www.hgk.msb.gov.tr/yan_menu/sorular.asp#2
may be relevant and based on the Bing translation it might be allowing
personal use, but not reproductions.
Given the above, it looks like we're not allowed to use their data in
OSM
and it must be redacted (removed). I propose to start doing so later
this
week, after contacting katpatuka, Muthukumar, and Muruganantham, the
three
users who have created the most source=HGK objects.
There a total of 31k objects, of which 28k are version 1. Most are by
katpatuka and most are place=* nodes.
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