Chris

That is disappointing to hear.  My role covers the south east and east Anglia 
regions and we would be happy to receive feedback in relation to NaPTAN data, 
and we would seek to persuade relevant colleagues in individual authorities to 
make any necessary corrections to NaPTAN where it is significantly wrong.  
Resource constraints may mean that such corrections cannot be done immediately 
- but we would do our best to get factually incorrect information updated as 
soon as possible.

Roger



-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Hill [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 30 June 2015 11:34
To: [email protected]; Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics; 
'Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics'; 'Stephen Dawkins'
Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK

I offered my survey data to Hull CC and East Riding of Yorkshire council. Both 
were not interested. This was when I did my surveys, so some time ago. I guess 
they don't understand that crowd-sourcing can produce valuable data. They 
certainly both are highly resistant to releasing any data as open data unless 
they are forced to do so. Maybe this attitude drives their data quality too.

Cheers, Chris

On 30 June 2015 11:21:39 GMT+01:00, Roger Slevin <[email protected]> wrote:
>I am surprised to hear that the current NaPTAN data (which is 
>continually updated) has errors in it – and I wonder therefore if the 
>problem may lie in the updating of NaPTAN data in OSM.  The original 
>upload of NaPTAN to OSM was done about five years ago – and therefore 
>it would not be surprising to find stops missing or ones that have 
>moved in the meantime.
>
> 
>
>I believe that Brighton & Hove are good at maintaining the data in 
>NaPTAN – but their idea of precision and yours may differ (as for 
>public transport information we can be tolerant of slightly imprecise 
>locations).  So you should use the latest version of NaPTAN and I can 
>supply a copy in XML or CSV format if that would help.
>
> 
>
>Best wishes
>
> 
>
>Roger Slevin
>
>Traveline south east & anglia
>
> 
>
> 
>
>From: Chris Hill [mailto:[email protected]]
>Sent: 30 June 2015 10:58
>To: Public transport/transit/shared taxi related topics; Stephen 
>Dawkins
>Subject: Re: [Talk-transit] Buses in Brighton, UK
>
> 
>
>I had the NaPTAN data imported for my local patch. The data is based on 
>submissions from each local authority and I think the quality varies. I 
>checked about a hundred stops and ended up surveying a couple of 
>thousand bus stops because the quality was so poor. Locations were 
>missing, in hopelessly wrong places and the meta data was often wrong.
>The local authorities here don't seem to believe in sharing data so you 
>may have a completely different result. If you plan to survey some or 
>all of the stops then using NaPTAN data as a hint to find them is 
>useful. I suggest you check out a few first to assess the quality 
>before any import.
>
>You should email talk-gb and possibly the imports ml to see what people 
>think, this ml doesn't have a wide audience
>
>Cheers, Chris



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