Hi,

On 29.10.2012 21:06, Martijn van Exel wrote:
MapRoulette (http://maproulette.org) is back with a new challenge:
~68,000 connectivity bugs in the US to be fixed. These are ways ending
very close (<5m) to another way, which means they should likely be
connected, although there are of course exceptions. Which makes it an
ideal MapRoulette challenge!

If I may add a word auf caution.

I think that tools like this are a nice way to bring a bit if fun to otherwise rather tedious mapping tasks, and I have often talked of the "gamification" of such things myself.

Recently, there was a rather unfortunate incident involving such a tool in Thailand, where a contributor unfamiliar with the local language, community, or customs "fixed" a large number of "bugs" that a roulette-like tool had sent him to. Mistakes were made (because part of the "play" aspect was also to get a good "score" and be quick), an email standoff between a local mapper and the remote "fixer" ensued, and the local guy reverted the edits, DWG was drawn into the issue and didn't make any friends on either side either (of course everyone believed that they were doing the right thing) and now it looks like we might be losing a long-time community member with thousands of good, sweat-of-the-brow, old-style survey local edits.

What do I want to say by that: Playful armchair bugfixing is nice and may often be helpful, but we must not forget that local knowledge trumps anything you can fix in a roulette. If one road ends near another road, that might actually be for a reason, and what looks like a shadow on the aerial image is in fact a fence - or the aerial image is outdated...

So I would appeal to every writer of "roulette" type tools: Educate your users; don't put too much "fixing pressure" on them (give them a chance to back out and tell them that when in doubt, don't fix something). Always make sure that you don't air-drop your users into countries they're not familiar with or even worse, where they don't speak the language. When in doubt, let someone draw a rectangle on the map first and say "this is my area of interest" or so. (I know this doesn't apply to your particular tool, Martijn, since the US is probably coherent enough for someone from Florida to make a good edit in Colorado... or is it?)

So if you have a few minutes to spare, help fix those bugs - spin the
MapRoulette wheel and see where it takes you ;) And don't be afraid to
do some TIGER or other cleanup while you're editing.

In the case I mentioned above, the situation was worsened by the "fixer" happily tracing a few buildings whereever he went, but the changeset comment was always "fixing bugs" - also a detail that people should be made aware of.

Again, I applaud this new method of OSM editing and I think it can help us a lot, but we must use it carefully.

Bye
Frederik

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