If we have consensus on what the US thinks is appropriate, then I agree
that it belongs on the tag list.

Does anyone have objection to bringing a proposal to create a
highway=ferry_link tag? I'd especially like to hear from people working
with routing (that's you Telenav)

Is ferry_link the appropriate tag? The ferries I ride all have a queue
area. Do we tag the queues like parking lots with a way through the queue?


On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM, Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:

> Probably, but in this conversation's defense, Washington State has the
> world's largest ferry fleet by far, so it's much more a Washingtonism than
> anything.
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Evin Fairchild <evindf...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Shouldn’t we be discussing this on the tagging mailing list rather than
>> the talk-us mailing list? After all, ferries are all around the world, so
>> we should discuss this at the tagging mailing list rather than here if we
>> want to introduce a new highway=ferry_link tag.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Compdude
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ivan Komarov [mailto:jkoma...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2013 9:16 AM
>> *To:* Paul Johnson
>> *Cc:* talk-us
>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-us] Ferries
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd vote for introducing a new tag, that is highway=ferry_link, rather
>> than trying to use an existing one that does not describe the object
>> correctly. There used to be and there will be disputes on this topic unless
>> we have it fixed. Introducing a new tagging scheme will cause some issues
>> for a while, but on the long run it would work better, I believe.
>>
>> On 8 Nov 2013 07:04, "Paul Johnson" <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote:
>>
>> I think highway=unclassified works, particularly if it's the fire lane
>> used for exiting the ferry that's always kept free of the ferry queue; not
>> sure how I'd tag the queue lot.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Martijn van Exel <marti...@telenav.com> writes:
>>
>> > It's the other way around, really. We're adjusting our routing logic
>> > to adapt to OSM. Referring to the wiki, a service road is 'Generally
>> > for access to a building, motorway service station, beach, campsite,
>> > industrial estate, business park, etc.' - so by that definition, a
>> > service road would typically only occur at the beginning or the end of
>> > the route, and that's what we tell our routing engine to do. If it
>> > were to turn out that this definition of what a service road is, is in
>> > fact not how it is generally used in mapping, then we'd need to
>> > revisit the wiki (and our routing rules) - but from what I have seen
>> > in my pretty extensive mapping experience in the U.S., the definition
>> > generally holds. So it makes sense to me to suggest a different
>> > tagging for these ferry access routes, not only (and not even
>> > primarily) to satisfy our or any third party logic using the data, but
>> > to bring more consistency to OSM in general.
>>
>> That's fair enough.  I got the wrong impression earlier (perhaps my
>> misreading) that this was about a particular routing engine rather than
>> the documented semantics.
>>
>> So perhaps highway=ferry_link, or perhaps the roads should just be
>> highway=unclassified.
>>
>>
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