Hi All: I have a question: Why can't there be member tag values? There are tag values for ways, so why not members? Just a thought.
Best, Kristen --- OSM Profile --> http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/KristenK From: James Mast [mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2013 5:18 PM To: Martijn van Exel Cc: talk-us@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State highways. Martijn, How would you suggest using the "role:signed = yes/no" (or is this just for completely unsigned highways like I-124 in TN where we can add this info into the main tags of the relation)? We would still need a way to keep the direction for the unsigned segment of the route in the role so that the relation editor in JOSM (and other analyzers) would be able to know that the route is still going North/East or South/West, especially on a dual-carriageway (like what happens with US-52 on I-94 in MN and US-19 Trunk on I-279/I-376 here in Pittsburgh, PA) and would let you know it's still in one piece. If you don't like the "|" separating the "role = north|unsigned", maybe use the ";" or "," instead? I could see the ";" working just as good as the "|". I just want to find a solution to keep the route "all in one piece" instead of having to have two separate relations for it's signed segment and one covering the entire route with the "unsigned_ref" tag. Annoying and easily broken by new users who don't know why there are two relations for the exact same route on some segments. -James > From: m...@rtijn.org<mailto:m...@rtijn.org> > Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 09:25:11 -0700 > To: rickmastfa...@hotmail.com<mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com> > CC: talk-us@openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > Subject: Re: [Talk-us] Separate relations for each direction of US & State > highways. > > Hi James, > > I had not thought of the Case of the Hidden Segments. It makes sense > to tag them, but would it not be more in line with general OSM tagging > practice to use role:signed = yes/no? > > I think it's a valuable extension on the role discussion, perhaps you > can add a paragraph to the wiki page > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway_Directions_In_The_United_States > with an example? I found this photo (not ideal and I'm not sure if we > could use it on the wiki, but it's something ;) > http://www.ajfroggie.com/roadpics/mn/us052/nb-i94e.jpg > > Best > Martijn > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:43 PM, James Mast > <rickmastfa...@hotmail.com<mailto:rickmastfa...@hotmail.com>> wrote: > > We also have to come up with a way to designate hidden segments of a route > > so we don't have to have two separate relations for highways that have > > segments that are hidden. > > > > Some of the examples I'm thinking of are like US-52 in MN when it's on I-94 > > and US-19 Trunk here in Pittsburgh, PA while it's on I-279/I-376. Both > > states have signs for theses routes telling people to follow said > > Interstates for those routes and then no more reference to them till when > > they leave the Interstates. I'm thinking that we could possibly tag the > > roles for them in the relations this way: role=north|unsigned. This would > > also help for the renders that use the relations to add the shields. They > > would be able to use the "|unsigned" part to know not to add the shields > > along that way. > > > > As for the highways that are completely hidden, the "unsigned_ref" tag in > > the relation will work perfectly for them still (US-85 in NM as an example). > > > > Anybody else agree with me that this might work better than the two > > relations for the highways that have segments that are hidden? > > > > -James > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Talk-us mailing list > > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us > > > > > > -- > Martijn van Exel > http://oegeo.wordpress.com/ > http://openstreetmap.us/ > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-us@openstreetmap.org> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us
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