On 01/21/2016 04:32 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 8:55 AM, Paul Johnson <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Would it be possible to get some advice on how to best submit this
form for the outlines Oklahoma's state parks? I'm not quite sure
where "using the public record to assist in contributing to
OpenStreetMap" lies on the binary option "personal" or
"commercial" use, and ODRT basically said, "You want to know where
the state park boundaries are? File a FOIA Request..." Who says
red states favor small government? /s
Filling out the form I would definitely indicate commercial use, but
that could still lead to licensing issues.
I ran into the same thing in Arizona, give me money and we'll give you
data. I did a survey [1] of Washington County's, most have portals to
download GIS data, but some are like Oklahoma, no way they'll let you
have the data you paid for. (I'll let you guess how they vote.)
We all picture Oklahoma as a big open prairie, but having been there I
know that's not true. It's unlikely a mapper could take a gps device
to the perceived edges of parks to map them. Is it worth considering
applying for a grant to obtain the data? Park boundaries are not like
roads which can easily be added from a survey. Formally requesting
them using grant money could help getting the correct licensing for
import into OSM. Otherwise, there could be licensing problems.
Clifford
[1]
https://glassman.cartodb.com/viz/68d4aa30-97f0-11e5-92ce-0e3a376473ab/public_map
One issue that a number of states have is that they contracted out the
production of the GIS files, and unwisely entered into contracts that
allow them to redistribute the data only on the contractor's terms. They
couldn't agree to ODBL even if they wanted to.
Other localities see GIS as a profit center. In New York, at least, this
is perfectly lawful. The Court of Appeals of the Second Circuit said so.
(There's a circuit split on the issue, if memory serves.)
https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/court-rules-copyright-maps-does-not-offend-open-records-law
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73 de ke9tv/2, Kevin
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