Absolutely! I may have miscommunicated. I want the exact same thing: for it to be easier to tag "missing" infrastructure.
I'm just remembering my many attempts to evaluate sidewalk network completeness (that's highway=footway objects), and it's not easy. But I don't want to launch another discussion about pedestrian tagging standard! I'm just saying that having a dedicated way or point that says, "this thing does not exist here" can be useful, but there are no current standards for doing so that I'm aware of. It's subtle: sidewalk=no/none on a road says, "this road does not have sidewalks", whereas a dedicated way for a sidewalk (footway=sidewalk) that said, "this sidewalk does not exist" displaces the expected location of a sidewalk. The latter has its own (big) issues, but I think the problem is worth exploring. For the sidewalk case: how can we related metadata of one thing (in this case, a street) to another (a sidewalk) help mappers create consistent and accurate data? For the nonexistent street case: how can we specify that this piece of infrastructure does *not* exist when there is no metadata from which to guess (as we had in the case of sidewalks) and the current appropriate schema is, "this is a blank area of the map with no data". On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 11:22 AM Andy Townsend <ajt1...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 03/03/2019 18:43, Nick Bolten wrote: > > As I mentioned, I'm aware of hacks regarding sidewalks > > I wouldn't describe sidewalk=none as a hack - speaking as someone who > walks a lot, any verifiable tag that says "you're allowed to, but you > probably don't want to walk down this road" is really useful. > > Best Regards, > > Andy > > PS: I'm not trying to make any point about how to map the presence of > sidewalks here (we don't need to dredge that up again) I'm just saying > that mapping the absence of them is useful too. > > > _______________________________________________ > Talk-us mailing list > Talk-us@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us >
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