Having watched this discussion, I feel I can add a little bit.

There is a collection of "agencies" with different titles and different 
functions that GENERALLY fall into this category.  COG (council of 
governments), TPO (transportation planning organization), RPO (regional 
planning organization), RPA (regional planning authority), TPA (transportation 
planning authority), MPO (municipal planning organization), and more.  These 
are organized for various purposes and have varying functions, and Anthony is 
right: few citizens would even vaguely recognize their existence, let alone 
their function.  And of course their function varies widely.  There may well be 
specific rules (varying by state) for how each of these operate, though I am 
not familiar with any of that.

In at least some states, these agencies form once the population of a 
contiguous area reaches a threshold.  There is often some funding flowing to 
the agencies as a result.  Their boundaries can cross many jurisdictional 
boundaries.  They cross state lines, county lines, township lines, and city 
lines.  In denser population areas, they often butt up against one another.  In 
more rural regions, there are significant gaps between them.

Their ability to actually control things varies.  As an example, our local TPO 
(actually called a Coordinating Council) has an active transportation plan that 
shows a 4-foot paved shoulder on a county road that is popular with bicyclists. 
 The county transportation plan shows the same thing.  But the road commission, 
whose members are appointed by the county board but are otherwise essentially 
independent (somewhat analogous to judges appointed for life), would not have 
added the 4-foot shoulders to the road without extra money contributed by the 
county, affected townships, and citizen donations.  The TPO plan was of 
interest to the road commission and nothing more.

I'll leave it to others as to whether the boundaries of the agencies should be 
mapped, but I thought it would be useful to help in understanding them.


Kerry Irons
Adventure Cycling Association

-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Costanzo <acjame...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2020 1:15 AM
To: OpenStreetMap talk-us list <talk-us@openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-us] admin_level and COGs, MPOs, SPDs, Home Rule

Going to chime in here as someone who has lived the majority of his life in CT.

I am quite familiar with CT's 8 counties and their geographic forms.
But I only have a vague idea what a COG is and couldn't have told you offhand 
anything about where the boundaries between them are.

I support the idea that counties in CT should be tagged the same as they are in 
other states. On the most basic level, this is simply consistent - why should 
CT be tagged differently than elsewhere?
But even on a more nuanced level... the average person isn't concerned about 
what government functions are or aren't associated with a county. CT's counties 
have no associated government (anymore) but they are still commonly used for 
statistical purposes and they still have cultural relevance as well - you will 
hear references in casual conversations to Fairfield and Litchfield counties. 
Meanwhile ask any Connecticutter what COG they live in and most of them will 
probably answer "what's a COG".

Great current example of this, look at the state's reporting on covid
cases: 
https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/Coronavirus/CTDPHCOVID19summary5132020.pdf?la=en
Page 2 shows current hospitalizations by county. No reference to COGs to be 
found.

Thus, counties should retain their admin level tags, and COGs should be tagged 
less prominently.

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