On June 13, 2017 7:33:55 AM EDT, Alvin Starr via talk <[email protected]> wrote: >On 06/13/2017 06:57 AM, o1bigtenor wrote: > >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Alvin Starr via talk ><[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> You can never be paranoid enough. >> >> What your looking for is a tempest enclosure. >> Its basically a Faraday cage but tested to NATO et al >> standards.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_(codename)) >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tempest_%28codename%29%29>. >> A bunch of years ago I was dealing with CSE and got to learn that >> you can read a CRT screen from a good distance away (I vaguely >> remember it was on the order of a KM or so). There is apparently >> at least 1 tempest building in Ottawa that got screwed up because >> someone cut some holes for plumbing. >> So your not the first person worried about others capturing your >> radiated signal. >> >> Not that long ago I read an ACM article talking about being able >> to read an LCD screen in the next room from RF and then there was >> another ACM article about being able to read a screen from the >> reflection off a persons eyeballs. >> >> So to keep completely safe. >> 1) remove the battery >> 2) wrap it in aluminum foil >> 3) wrap it in copper foil >> 4) solder the edges. >> >> >> Greetings >> >> Why - - - I do believe that that would work - - - except then the >> device isn't usable - - - shucks!!! >> >> Dee > >You can have either security or usability but almost never both. > >As for IoT. Its is most often bundled with "cloud" control and that is >where I have a problem. >The idea of networks of devices is great. >Being able to control and monitor "things" over an internal wireless >network is nice. >Of course that is predicated on the wireless protocol being secure and >very hard to hack.
Software Defined Radio over USB is a little off this topic, but this presenter from last years defcon has a substantial list of usb hardware with pairing problems, macro vulnerabilities and IoT exploits. DEF CON 24 - Marc Newlin - MouseJack: Injecting Keystrokes into Wireless Mice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00A36VABIA4 > >The problem quickly becomes all those devices like the Nest thermostat > >where your device is controlled and connected to some foreign >corporation. >They chose how you interact and if they decide to get out of the >business(or go out of business) then your hardware is now just so much >wall decoration. >Then there is the fact that they can extract information about you by >the way you control your devices and that is just a little bit creepy. > >I like devices that I can control from inside the perimiter of my own >somewhat secured network. >That way the control is what I chose and the information I share is my >own security/privacy trade-off. -- Russell Sent by K-9 Mail --- Talk Mailing List [email protected] https://gtalug.org/mailman/listinfo/talk
