| From: William Park via talk <[email protected]>
| 
| I just received email promo from Lenovo:
| 
|     ThinkPad T14s Gen 2 Intel (14”) - Black
|     https://s.bluecore.com/Utrkeyg72dZq_0DQf820_NrJxD
| 
| Is this a good deal?

The more precise question would "is this a good deal for me?"
Unfortunately we don't really know what you need or want.

My current ideas about Lenovo:

- they have horribly high list prices

- they often put stuff on sale.  Usually 40-50+ percent off.

- (all brands) expandability of notebooks is being reduced.  Different 
  models are different.  Pro Tip: apparently no LPDDR4 DRAM is in sockets.
  Many machines have no RAM sockets -- all soldered.
  Some have soldered RAM + 1 socket (a lifeline but annoying because
  two matched SODIMMs perform better).
  
- they have a changing array of coupons to give you additional discounts.
  They are not secret but they are sometimes hard to find.

- sometimes you can get significant cash-back by going through rakuten.ca
  10% yesterday and today but that is higher than normal.  I've seen it at
  14% a couple of weeks ago.
  Note: rakuten does not combine with some coupons (hard to figure out 
  which)

- there is an educational / first responders discount through id.me
  I know little about it because I don't qualify.

About this particular computer:

- for that much money, I'd demand perfection.

- I'd prefer a better screen (more pixels, more nits, better colour 
  perhaps, maybe touch)

- I'd prefer a later generation Intel CPU.  They really seem to be getting 
  better in each recent generation.  I also prefer AMD but I think that 
  Intel is now getting close and has some advantages (Thunderbolt, 
  "efficiency cores").

  (AMD Ryzen CPU naming is a misleading mess.  You have to look up the 
  particular chip to find out the microarchitecture generation.)

- I have not bought ThinkPads recently because the price premium has been 
  too high.  I certainly liked much about my ancient ones.
  Exception: I bought ThinkPad C13 ChromeBooks but they were less than 
  $200.

- 16G RAM is much better that 8G but is it enough for the long 
  amortization period of such an expensive notebook? (Three years ago I 
  threw 32G in my main notebook because it was so cheap; I don't know if I 
  need it)  For most people, 16G is comfortable.  For you: I have no way 
  of knowing; probably you don't either.

- I find interesting deals on redflagdeals.com, in the Hot Deals Forum.  
  Deals come and go.

- Randomly, this is cheaper and has better features but is a ThinkBook 
  rather than a ThinkPad (not the same quality).  Note: I'm not 
  recommending it (I haven't looked closely at it)
        
<https://forums.redflagdeals.com/lenovo-canada-thinkbook-14p-14-2-2k-ryzen-7-6800h-16gb-512gb-895-after-codes-2596420/>

- if still available, this is a little more than half the cost of the 
  ThinkPad and better in some ways.  You may detest the format: touch 
  screen, can be folded into a tablet.

<https://forums.redflagdeals.com/lenovo-canada-yoga-6-13-c-amd-dark-teal-aluminum-top-cover-starting-714-now-690-2600460/#p37263784>

If you don't mind a barely used ThinkPad, this guy bought one at a very 
good price from Lenovo, decided he didn't need it, instead of returning it 
offered it to the community at cost, got stiffed, and is probably stuck 
with it.  So: he might accept a bit less than his asking price:

<https://forums.redflagdeals.com/open-box-lenovo-thinkbook-14p-ryzen-5-6600h-16gb-512gb-ssd-2-2k-screen-835-2600803/>

Somewhere in the forums he mentioned why he didn't like it as much as 
other choices.

Note: his price will not be subject to HST.  He might be able to give 
you a copy of his original invoice which will show the HST he paid.

Note: I haven't talked to him about this so much is guess-work on my part.
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