Define crashing :) Is is simply rebooting or freezing or shuting down.

I would try to use journalctl to check logs; as detailed in the keyboard
thread. Normally the kernel should trace the oops/fault before crashing.

An alternative would be to boot an older kernel - it should be still
installed - and see if that is stable.

On 11/10/2023 18:30, Giles Orr via talk wrote:
I have a Debian 12 system that's my daily driver.  In the last two
days, it crashed twice when I was away from the keyboard and nothing
was happening (around the same time of day now that I think about it).
The system has previously been very stable, usually up for a month at
a time with reboots only to pick up new kernels.  I should note that
when I turned it on and ran upgrades on Monday after a week away, it
upgraded a lot of packages for Debian release 12.2.

I'm not great at debugging Linux crashes.  The `dmesg` command is
useless, as it only shows the log since the last boot.  So I turned to
/var/log/syslog.  What I noticed was this, the only line of
consequence about a millisecond before the reboot:

     2023-10-10T11:36:23.839046-04:00 sli7d systemd-modules-load[399]:
Inserted module 'lp'

I don't have a printer, and I hadn't just done a "print-to-PDF" or
anything like that - the machine had been idle for a couple hours.
This morning it crashed again, and milliseconds before the crash I
found these (again, the machine was idle when this happened):

     2023-10-11T12:20:54.647048-04:00 sli7d systemd-modules-load[382]:
Inserted module 'lp'
     2023-10-11T12:20:54.647254-04:00 sli7d systemd-modules-load[382]:
Inserted module 'ppdev'
     2023-10-11T12:20:54.647280-04:00 sli7d systemd-modules-load[382]:
Inserted module 'parport_pc'
     2023-10-11T12:20:54.647290-04:00 sli7d lvm[372]:   3 logical
volume(s) in volume group "primary" monitored
     2023-10-11T12:20:54.647302-04:00 sli7d systemd[1]: Starting
systemd-journal-flush.service - Flush Journal to Persistent Storage...
     2023-10-11T12:20:54.647312-04:00 sli7d systemd-udevd[398]: Using
default interface naming scheme 'v252'.

I just ran `apt full-upgrade` (right now) and watched it upgrade
Samba.  Is it possible that Samba was triggering "lp"-related stuff
which was causing the crash?  Although why it would cause a crash I
don't know.  No new kernel (and thus no new modules).  I suppose I
could reboot and select and older kernel and see if that was stable
...

Suggestions on how to better debug this would be most welcome.  Does
blacklisting the "lp" module sound like a good idea?  Any other ideas?

Re-installing would be ... unpleasant.  This is my primary machine and
heavily tweaked-up.  But I guess I'll do that if I have to.  Keeping
it as a last resort though (daily crashes would get me there!).


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