| From: Giles Orr via talk <[email protected]>

| Hugh seems to be correct: I think everything in `dmesg` ends up in the
| journal.  But what I find interesting is that not everything in
| /var/log/systemlog is in the journal.

That doesn't match my (possibly unreliable) model of The Way Things
are Supposed to Be.  I think:

- the syslog facility has been replaced by the journald facility

- all the APIs for syslog now go to journald.

- That may require rebuilding old packages.  (Not changing, just
  rebuilding, so that the newer libraries get linked.)

- I would expect that the new stable debian had rebuilt all packages

Any of these beliefs could be wrong.

|  I was comparing the systemlog
| entries, and that's how I concluded CUPS/printer drivers were the
| problem.  The loading of those modules weren't mentioned in the
| journal.  In this case, it seems that the information I most needed
| (ie. "this is a printer driver problem") came from syslog.

So modifying my ealier question, can you see a commonality in the syslog
entries just before each crash?

| This is a negative test case - ie. I don't know it's solved, and won't
| ever be certain.  Unless it crashes again, then I know it's not
| solved.  Ugh.

Yeah.  And you won't know when it becomes safe to run CUPS again.

The best way of gaining confidence would be if a bug fix were
released.  But you don't even know the bug.  It doesn't even sound
clear enough to report.
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