Both talks would be very cool.... Chris, I would prefer the testing discussion. Are you talking about security testing or general testing, like the use of test suites to perform regression testing, ect? I would prefer the later. Seems like an issue that comes up once a year and deserves that attention.

Hans K



Hans Zaunere wrote:
This is a good idea, too.  So, we went from not having any speaker, to
having too much material :)

Folks who would be willing to present (April for sure, possibly May) please
ping me directly and we can schedule things in.

H


Kenneth Downs wrote on Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:08 PM:
Have you ever considered a database primer?  A very simple
presentation could be built around a handful of ideas:
1) Vocabulary demystification,  column=field, tuple=row=record,
relation=table, foreign key = reference, primary_key = "code" or
unique value
2)  Why you can do so much with primary and foreign keys

3)  Is normalization a black art, or a simple matter of technique

4)  What do people mean by denormalization, why do some people hate
it so much? Why do others say it is no big deal?
5) Finally, why programmers have trouble with databases and why
database people have trouble with code, the so-called "impedance
mismatch".

I'd be happy to prepare something.


Hans Zaunere wrote:


        Ben Sgro (ProjectSkyline) wrote on Thursday, April 12, 2007 4:01 PM:


                Hey all,

                Some application penetration testing would be fun.

                Maybe using both tools (nessus) and scripts, brute forcing,
cookie
                altering, sql inject.

                I dont know if that's something to put together in the next
week,
                but I would donate time to providing a portion of what's
listed.

        That's not a bad idea - maybe a cooperative presentation on a
        specific set of topics?

        H



                Just some thoughts.

                - Ben


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                        Hans Zaunere wrote:


                                Would be great to have you present.


                        Anyone have any topic requests?

                        My favorite topics are web application security,
sessions, and
                        testing. I can also speak about DTD strategies:

                        http://handdrawngames.com/DesktopTD/

                        Chris

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