Hi Jim: I turned off almost all the Apps in Script Manager with no positive results - same problem of reading menu items over and over then slowly adding to the list of items read like they are being loaded very slowly and sometimes the same menu being read twice when hitting the right arrow key. I am getting the word Graphic being read in there and on the desktop so there may be some graphic or dialog or something causing a problem. Is there some way of identifying a graphic after WE says Graphic out of the blue to try and narrow this particular problem down some? I heard the word graphic read when I returned to the desktop as well as in my own program. I tried using the route mouse to cursor but WE just said couldn't route mouse to frame so don't know if that is the way to identify a graphic WE is trying to speak. I am concerned that WE is temporarily setting focus to the graphic but then moving on and trying to set focus to whatever other controls it thinks it can find and reading controls over and over perhaps from the top of the dom as it were. How do I identify the graphic that WE is reading the word Graphic for? Could it be some type of PopUp? Rick USA
-----Original Message----- From: Jim Grimsby JR. [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 6:08 AM To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: WE Problem Analysis What apps do you have running. I don't see any of these problems on my windows 8.1 computers. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Sunday, May 10, 2015 2:47 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: WE Problem Analysis Hi WE Users: After using WE for some time now with MS Windows 8.1 I have noticed a pattern to some problems. In my in-house Microsoft Visual Studio Developed project WE has trouble holding or finding focus on a Master Detail form with a MenuBar. When I open the menu bar and right arrow WE might read File View File View File View Edit File View file view edit sorts etc... When I try to down arrow through the Menu Items in one of the menus we may start reading the first few menu items then lock up until I tab or alt tab to change focus to another control and back again. Sometimes reading through the ListBox using the arrow keys WE just locks up. Sometimes I might hear the word graphic spoken before it locks up, most times not. Always, when it works, When I LogOn to my computer after letting it go into sleep mode WE stutters on the Password like Sta star sta star sta star sta star etc as I type each letter. Also, after logging on this way my Outlook messages wont read and the last time even Internet Explorer wouldnt read, just ping ping trying to read using the arrow keys in both cases - web problem for WE? Sometimes I hear things spoken that are not in a focused object I am trying to either alt-tab to or otherwise navigate to. Now, all this speaks of WE trying to read more than it should, perhaps reading the entire dom for each keypress? I dont know but this seems to be hinting at some type of problem related to WE trying to find the correct item to hold focus and thus speak. None of these problems are exhibited by JAWS - I have tested them out with the alternate reader to ensure it was not a Microsoft problem. Note that my past experience, postings, on Visual Studio problems fall into this focus problem category as well and that the Visual Studio problems are also not present in JAWS or, for that matter, in a couple of other screen readers I usually have to fall back on. So, these problems may be a result of trying to read the entire dom or WE getting lost in the middle of trying to position itself and allowing focus to get mixed up during this process somehow. While this all is indeed problematic the reason for this posting is to help identify, perhaps, the source(s) of the many problems WindowEyes is having lately so dont take it personally guys but see if you can add to the analysis. I will post to the GW Scripting List since some of those folks are quite good when it comes to how WE does things. Rick USA _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
