Then why aren't the neospeech voices locked to the software they come with? I have zoomtext the voices that come with that i use with we all the time and i don't notice anything bad performance wise same thing with the sapi5 synths i bought.
Reeva On Saturday, July 11, 2015, Tom Kingston via Talk < [email protected]> wrote: > The reason the voices you buy for Window-Eyes are locked to it is because > they have licensed those voices for their product. Then they write a driver > to control them directly and increase performance significantly over that > of the Windows SAPI interface. > > I have the Window-Eyes Eloquence, DecTalk, and vocalizer Expressive. And > when I switch to any of the pile of SAPI 5 voices I have performance takes > a dive because speech is not directly sent to those synths. > > So consider yourself a screen-reader developer. Would you want to sell an > add-on that will degrade the performance of your screen-reader? > > Tom > > > On 7/11/2015 2:49 PM, Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk wrote: > >> Maybe they do josh this is open for debate. How-ever this software is >> still >> owned buy human ware and how much control over it and what they are able >> to >> do with it is also open to question. As if memery serve me this software >> was actually not created buy human ware but buy l&h. as we all know l&h >> is >> long gone. Scansoft bought most of its holdings when they went out. If >> this is so who ever worked with this would have to work closely with human >> ware and who ever it is who hold the software. Probably nuance. >> As I said before I would rather have a useable sapi 5 version of the >> dectalk. No that software is not useable. That is dectalk 5.0 and it >> sounds >> awful. >> It is to bad that the voices you buy for window-eyes can not also support >> sapi 5. I kind of resent the idea that voices have to be bought for each >> screen reader. The unlock program was cool. You could run it as a service >> it would see that you have a key for that software and unlock it. Not >> only >> for use with what ever screen reader but for the whole system. If a sapi >> support was also available you could use it where ever you wanted. >> This is what I would love to see. >> >> Dectalk for android would also be nice. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:[email protected]] On >> Behalf Of Josh K via Talk >> Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2015 11:31 AM >> To: Elizabeth; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence and sapi5 dec-talk >> >> My dad takes apart old cars. those cars were made by companies. He has >> stuff >> from the 60s from high school that he saved, takes that stuff apart. And >> that is not illegal. So what is illegal about taking apart an old >> synthesizer that nobody uses? clearly our software licensing and laws need >> serious changing! >> >> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 >> >> On 7/11/2015 10:40 AM, Elizabeth wrote: >> >>> I thought reverse engineering of a company's product is illegal. >>> >>> >>> At 06:55 AM 7/11/2015, you wrote: >>> >>>> nuance owns eloquence and codeFactory partnered with them. so why not >>>> keynote and humanware? also couldn't keynote gold be reverse-engineered? >>>> >>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 >>>> >>>> On 7/11/2015 1:51 AM, Jim Grimsby JR. wrote: >>>> >>>>> Josh why would code factory do keynote. Human ware owns this >>>>> software. At least I think they do. I believe at one time I herd >>>>> that it was maid for them buy l&h. as we all know l&h is long gone. >>>>> I am not sure what they can do about this. >>>>> I am sorry josh but with my hearing problems I would rather see a >>>>> useable version of dectalk maid for sapi 5. If it was done for >>>>> android I would jump on that to. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Talk >>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>> On Behalf Of Josh K via Talk >>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 10:27 AM >>>>> To: Van Lant, Robin; Window-Eyes Discussion List; Gary Metzler >>>>> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence and sapi5 dec-talk >>>>> >>>>> yes and maybe we can get codeFactory to bring us keynote gold sapi5 >>>>> and >>>>> infovox230 sapi5 and doubleTalk sapi5 same for android and maybe >>>>> keysoft for windows and android as well. I hope so! >>>>> >>>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 >>>>> >>>>> On 7/9/2015 12:19 PM, Van Lant, Robin wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> And I find DecTalk Paul the easiest voice because it's what I've >>>>>> used for >>>>>> >>>>> 15 years. Eloquence pronounces some words differently that confuse >>>>> me. So funny how we all just get used to things. Glad there are >>>>> options to suit various preferences. >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Talk >>>>>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>> On Behalf Of Josh K via Talk >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:11 AM >>>>>> To: Gary Metzler; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>>>> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence and sapi5 dec-talk >>>>>> >>>>>> you unzip it with 7zip which is free and then go into the sapi5 >>>>>> folder and >>>>>> >>>>> run setup follow the prompts and install it that way then switch to >>>>> it in NVDA synthesizer dialog using microsoft speech API 5. >>>>> >>>>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 >>>>>> >>>>>> On 7/9/2015 4:29 AM, Gary Metzler wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Will the dectalk syth work in ndva? If so how would I install it? >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Josh K via Talk >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2015 10:12 PM >>>>>>> To: Orlando Enrique Fiol ; Window-Eyes Discussion List >>>>>>> Subject: Re: sapi5 eloquence and sapi5 dec-talk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> just some sample programs to make it talk in case you don't have a >>>>>>> screen reader and some development documents that you don't need. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> follow me on twitter @joshknnd1982 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/8/2015 7:04 PM, Orlando Enrique Fiol wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i found it free on a website bundled with some other decTalk >>>>>>>>> stuff >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> though. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks. I downloaded and installed it, but Window-eyes crashes >>>>>>>> most times when I switch to those SAPI 5 Dectalk voices. 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