As per Doug's previous message on this topic, please ensure you're working with
accurate facts rather than vague suppositions. Yes, there is some minimal, and
I stress MINIMAL, accessibility support in Edge that was added quite literally
at the last minute before Windows 10 went to RTM. Even so, there are huge holes
that Microsoft must address in their Edge APIs before any AT vendor can truly
support it. Because Microsoft themselves have openly admitted that they dropped
the ball here, and since we know they will be pushing out changes to Edge over
the coming months to address its accessibility shortcomings, there is no
practical value in adding support in Window-Eyes or any other product until
Edge has what we need to make it accessible. Once that support is there, I
guarantee we will add what is needed in Window-Eyes to make it work.
In the mean time, you have three other perfectly viable browsers from which to
choose, Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Chrome. Furthermore, Internet Explorer
is still included with Windows 10, and changing your default browser is
extremely simple. Permit me to quote from the Window-Eyes 9.2 readme:
-- The Microsoft Edge Browser
Microsoft Edge is a new web browser that ships with Windows 10. Due to
accessibility issues with Edge, Microsoft recommends to "Set your default web
browser to Internet Explorer for a more accessible web browsing experience."
Change your default browser by doing the following:
1. Press the Windows key to open the Start Menu.
2. Type "default browser" into the "Search" box.
3. A result labeled, "Change Default Web Browser" should appear. If not,
use the Up and Down Arrow keys to locate it, followed by Enter to open the
default browser settings screen.
4. Your focus will next land on the "Default Browser" button. If Edge is
your default browser, then press Enter. Otherwise, press Alt-F4 to close the
settings window.
5. You will next be placed in a group of buttons representing the browsers
currently installed on your computer. Tab until you hear, "Internet Explorer,"
and press Enter.
6. Press Alt-F4 to close the settings screen.
I hope this is helpful.
Regards,
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Darren Harris via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 8:19 AM
To: Doug Geoffray <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Windows 10 is working better than I expected
I think his point is more that someone in the open source community actually
has gone amd got some aspects of edge working if only in a very limited way.
Yet paid manufacturers have not yet done this.
-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
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On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk
Sent: 31 July 2015 13:15
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Windows 10 is working better than I expected
Gary,
Before starting untrue rumors, please make sure you have the facts
correct. No screen reader makes Edge usable. NVDA is saying the following:
Windows 10 introduces a new web browser and browsing engine called
Microsoft Edge. Some experimental support is available in NVDA "master"
snapshots and will be included in NVDA 2015.3, but there are major
problems and this is far from ready for everyday web browsing. These
issues are due to deficiencies in Edge's accessibility support. We are
working with Microsoft to ensure that these issues are rectified in
future Windows updates.
So I wouldn't accept that as a statement saying Edge is working.
Doug
On 7/31/2015 1:14 AM, gary melconian via Talk wrote:
> I'm wondering how come the open source community was the first one out of
> the gate to get microsoft edge working with screen reader on windows 10.
I'm
> just wondering since AI Squared and GW have a working and tight
> relationship with Microsoft how come they could not have gotten Microsoft
> edge the next gen browser by Microsoft working with Windo Eyes 9.2. Just
> wondering.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk
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> Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:07 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 is working better than I expected
>
> Hi,
>
> I've got a lot to learn about Windows 10, but, in general, its working
> pretty well. I'm still trying to figure out how Cortana and the text to
> speech app work together, but there is lots to learn.
>
> Bob, K8LR, [email protected]
>
> On 7/30/2015 7:29 PM, Don H via Talk wrote:
>> Should have taken the advise to wait on the Windows 10 upgrade. I
>> continued to have problems with WE not reading anything in the file
>> explorer. Thought I had it fixed but no such luck. I have now gone
>> back to Windows 8.1 and hope what ever the problems are whether it is
>> a WE or Windows issue get fixed soon. Just a note reverting back to
>> Win 8.1 was painless.
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