Ok, doug, steve and mark, I will give you the benefit of the doubt and I will give you time oto get Microsoft Edge working with Microsoft Edge. I will then continue ot use whati have been using for 20 or so years, IE, firefox and now lately chrome.
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steve Clower via Talk Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 5:40 AM To: Darren Harris <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>; Doug Geoffray <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Windows 10 is working better than I expected As per Doug's previous message on this topic, please ensure you're working with accurate facts rather than vague suppositions. Yes, there is some minimal, and I stress MINIMAL, accessibility support in Edge that was added quite literally at the last minute before Windows 10 went to RTM. Even so, there are huge holes that Microsoft must address in their Edge APIs before any AT vendor can truly support it. Because Microsoft themselves have openly admitted that they dropped the ball here, and since we know they will be pushing out changes to Edge over the coming months to address its accessibility shortcomings, there is no practical value in adding support in Window-Eyes or any other product until Edge has what we need to make it accessible. Once that support is there, I guarantee we will add what is needed in Window-Eyes to make it work. In the mean time, you have three other perfectly viable browsers from which to choose, Internet Explorer, Firefox, and Chrome. Furthermore, Internet Explorer is still included with Windows 10, and changing your default browser is extremely simple. Permit me to quote from the Window-Eyes 9.2 readme: -- The Microsoft Edge Browser Microsoft Edge is a new web browser that ships with Windows 10. Due to accessibility issues with Edge, Microsoft recommends to "Set your default web browser to Internet Explorer for a more accessible web browsing experience." Change your default browser by doing the following: 1. Press the Windows key to open the Start Menu. 2. Type "default browser" into the "Search" box. 3. A result labeled, "Change Default Web Browser" should appear. If not, use the Up and Down Arrow keys to locate it, followed by Enter to open the default browser settings screen. 4. Your focus will next land on the "Default Browser" button. If Edge is your default browser, then press Enter. Otherwise, press Alt-F4 to close the settings window. 5. You will next be placed in a group of buttons representing the browsers currently installed on your computer. Tab until you hear, "Internet Explorer," and press Enter. 6. Press Alt-F4 to close the settings screen. I hope this is helpful. Regards, Steve -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Talk Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 8:19 AM To: Doug Geoffray <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Windows 10 is working better than I expected I think his point is more that someone in the open source community actually has gone amd got some aspects of edge working if only in a very limited way. Yet paid manufacturers have not yet done this. -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+darren_g_harris=btinternet....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Doug Geoffray via Talk Sent: 31 July 2015 13:15 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Windows 10 is working better than I expected Gary, Before starting untrue rumors, please make sure you have the facts correct. No screen reader makes Edge usable. NVDA is saying the following: Windows 10 introduces a new web browser and browsing engine called Microsoft Edge. Some experimental support is available in NVDA "master" snapshots and will be included in NVDA 2015.3, but there are major problems and this is far from ready for everyday web browsing. These issues are due to deficiencies in Edge's accessibility support. We are working with Microsoft to ensure that these issues are rectified in future Windows updates. So I wouldn't accept that as a statement saying Edge is working. Doug On 7/31/2015 1:14 AM, gary melconian via Talk wrote: > I'm wondering how come the open source community was the first one out > of the gate to get microsoft edge working with screen reader on windows 10. I'm > just wondering since AI Squared and GW have a working and tight > relationship with Microsoft how come they could not have gotten > Microsoft edge the next gen browser by Microsoft working with Windo > Eyes 9.2. Just wondering. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Bob Tinney via Talk > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 8:07 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Windows 10 is working better than I expected > > Hi, > > I've got a lot to learn about Windows 10, but, in general, its working > pretty well. I'm still trying to figure out how Cortana and the text > to speech app work together, but there is lots to learn. > > Bob, K8LR, [email protected] > > On 7/30/2015 7:29 PM, Don H via Talk wrote: >> Should have taken the advise to wait on the Windows 10 upgrade. I >> continued to have problems with WE not reading anything in the file >> explorer. Thought I had it fixed but no such luck. I have now gone >> back to Windows 8.1 and hope what ever the problems are whether it is >> a WE or Windows issue get fixed soon. 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