Thanks for the nice words steve. I hav been with you guys for 25 years I am not 
going any where. I am hoping for  the best for AI square and MS partnerships.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 1:43 PM
To: Peter Duran <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft and accessibility

Thank you, Peter for such a great and well thought out response. I get so angry 
when I see the incredible progress that has been made between AI Squared and 
Microsoft and other companies to make this all come together.
Then all you see from blind people on the list is how terrible and inaccessible 
everything is. I know what it takes to make this all happen. It's not magic, 
people!
I give AI Squared and MS incredible props for getting these products working.  
It must have been such an incredible under taking.
Then when I see the amount of negative responses that come in that just want to 
criticize Microsoft , I really do feel sorry for AI Squared and other smaller 
companies along with MS.
Actually I've never seen such a commitment to accessibility in my life!
If you want to talk about accessible, folks, why you all just move right on 
over to Apple and see how far you get! Just go over their and start complaining 
to who ever is in charge at Apple and get them to build you a nice little 
screen reader and everything. You'll be running back so fast it'll make your 
head spin.
On 8/12/2015 3:28 PM, Peter Duran via Talk wrote:
> Hello Tony,
>
> I couldn't disagree with you more!
>
> As I said in a prior post, a launch of a new operating system is a massive 
> endeavor with tens of thousands of things that can go wrong.  I have no doubt 
> that Microsoft will fix their Edge browser, among many other things.
>
> Most users are unaware of the complexity and rapid chages that are a part of 
> the web world.  Window-Eyes 9.2, for instance, isn't just another upgrade; it 
> had to be virtually rewritten to deal with all the new dynamic web features - 
> that's why it took so long to get out the door.
>
> As far as Microsoft's commitment to accessibility goes, consider the facts:  
> Window-Eyes is now free to all users of Microsoft Office; how much more 
> accessibility do you want?
>
> There is a time to mobilize and protest for better conditions.  And there is 
> a time when goals are met, and it is time to move onto more pressing issues.  
> ACB, NFB, and AFB have done the work, and now only clean-up is necessary and 
> dutiful monitoring of future progress.
>
> Speaking of universal accessibility to Microsoft products:  Its CEO Satya 
> Nadella has taken Microsoft in a new direction, more like that of Apple.  
> Windows 10 is intended to run on all sorts of devices: computers, tablets, 
> smart phones, and so on.  The user interface will be virtually the same 
> across all devices, and, no doubt, accessibility will be abundant on all 
> devices as well.
>
> As I said in a prior post, just wait for the dust to settle and then upgrade 
> when the coast is clear, and you are satisfied with the level of 
> accessibility.
>
> Peter Duran
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:[email protected]] 
> On Behalf Of tchild via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 2:43 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Microsoft and accessibility
>
> Hi,
> I’m a bit dismayed and also  wondering about the “back steps” accessibility 
> has seemed to take. Where are all the organizations, and people we as blind 
> and dissabled people have put our “faith” in to make sure that we can at 
> least access some of the stuff via networks. In this day and age for 
> Microsoft not only to roll out a new version of windows that is less 
> accessible than previous versions, but an all new browser that is totally 
> in-accessible with a screen reader. We hear the same old song and dance 
> everytime we have to settle for less than our sighted peers. Maybe it’s time 
> blind and Vi quit “blindly” following the Acb’s and the NFB’s and band 
> together for one cause. We’ve kinda been like the north against the south, 
> Democrats against Republicans. I’m afraid that untill we are all or “one 
> mind” we will continue to have to settle for being “second class” citizens...
> Just saying. Tony
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