Rick, Window-Eyes and most screen readers will try to obtain the following properties from a Windows based control so that it can be accurately represented to the user in speech and or braille: 1. Name 2. Role 3. State 4. Value The exact technique or API (e.g. MSAA, UIA, IAccessible2, Win32, etc.) that is used by Window-Eyes to access these properties of a given control depends on a number of factors including how the application was designed. So, I think your best bet is to learn how to assign values to these control properties using your preferred IDE. Marc
-----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:22 AM To: [email protected]; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Microsoft Forms And WindowEyes Accessibility Settings Hi Joe: You are thinking in terms of using third party programs. I create them. These settings are what we have to use when creating a form and according to Microsoft we should set the Accessibility properties to make the controls more accessible with screen readers like WindowEyes. I have been looking for a document or comments from AI Squared about which properties they monitor for which types of controls like a DattaGrid, Tabbed Document and other more complex controls. Rick USA -----Original Message----- From: Joe Paton [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 9:12 AM To: Rick Thomas <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Microsoft Forms And WindowEyes Accessibility Settings Hello rick, Which specific programs do you need access with window-eyes? alternatively where are you experiencing difficulty with window-eyes and what programs? I can see from your comprehensive post the details surrounding ensuring that controls are labelled and laid out in an accessible order so to speak. so what specifically can you not access? Thanks, JP On Thu, 24 Sep 2015 08:06:48 -0400 Rick Thomas via Talk <[email protected]> wrote: Hi: I have asked several times on this list about settings, properties, for setting up my programs to work with WindowEyes. I have never heard from AI Squared about the settings they would want to see so a Windows Form would work best with their software. Here is an example of a question that was answered on the blind programming list about setting up a dialog for accessibility with screen readers that monitor the accessibility features Microsoft has put in place for all of their controls - I find it hard to believe WindowEyes doesn't monitor for accessibility - what are they using if not what Microsoft has in place for accessibility of their forms and controls? I have asked about the accessibility settings for several controls and never gotten a response. Here is what on developer said about a dialog, I have no question about the dialog box but other more complex controls like the Tabbed Document and other controls but it will show you that Microsoft indeed has settings screen readers can use if setup properly but it is up to the screen reader company to develop against them. This just popped up so I thought I would put it up here so you can see an example of what I was talking about in the past if you read those messages and are interested in WindowEyes Accessibility with Microsoft Windows Projects and Programs: I am especially interested in the Accessible Role - the others are just fluf and not overly related to WindowEyes, although they may be. Hi Akash! You can design a dialog box such as a standard Windows form by setting the following properties: Windows location you need to set to Center Screen. ControlBox, you need to set to False. You can leave minimize and maximize box to true, but for a standard dialog it needs to be False, because in a standard dialog boxes, you have not possibility to minimize or maximize a dialog box. In the Accessibility name, you need to type your form caption, the AccessibleName, and Text property of a form should have the same value. The Accessibility rol property should be set to Dialog, and each control on the dialog box should have the AccessibilityRol property set to the corresponding control for example: TextBox=Text Label=StaticText Button=PushButton You can set the AccessibilityRol property using the following: 1. Place cursor on a control you want to change there properties. 2. Press the F4 key to bring up the properties window. 3. Use the up and down arrow keys until you find the AccessibilityRol property. 4. Press the Tab key until you hear Browse..., and hit the Space bar. 5. Use the Up and Down arrow keys until you find the corresponding control type which match the control type you placed on the form and hit the Enter key. That's it! Enjoy! _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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