Hello Chip:

Thanks for catching me not replying to all. I meant to. My bad. Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 2:52 PM
To: Rick Blair <[email protected]>
Cc: Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Microsof Word Problem

Thanks for letting me know Rick, and glad it worked!

I'm going to copy the list on your latest reply so others can know about it.

Chip





Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Blair [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 2:45 PM
To: Chip Orange
Subject: RE: Microsof Word Problem

Hello Chip:

I guess I should have tried the repair option first. It is quite buried in
the file open dialog (right click on the open button in the file open dialog
box to find the option. Not available if opening recents) , but it appears
to have fixed the problem. The document in question has been annotated
during its history by several people on several continents using their own
language-specific versions of operating systems and Word, including various
versions of Word. Opening the file with the repair option seems to have
solved my problem. I will keep you posted as I perform my latest revisions
to see if it comes back.

I love it when this list works!

Thanks, Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:19 PM
To: Rick Blair <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Microsof Word Problem

Hi Rick,

I am not sure what I can add.  You could try to open the document with the
repair option to see if it's damaged (a damaged document could perhaps cause
Word or Window-Eyes to act strangely), otherwise, it's a WE bug it sounds
like, and without support there's not much to be done.

You could try installing my Word Advanced Features app.  I don't usually
recommend it for trouble shooting, but it has a feature where it reads to
you tracked changes as you arrow to each line (so you don't have to move to
them), and perhaps it would keep WE from hitting some tracked changes
feature which is stopping it dead.

You could send me the document and I'd have a quick look at it to see if
anything suggests itself to me?


If this is for your work  (and I think it is), I'd think it's worth buying
WE now and paying the upgrade fee for fusion later, so you'd get support
now.

Those are all the options I can think of.



Chip








Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-----Original Message-----
From: Rick Blair [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 12:02 PM
To: Chip Orange; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: RE: Microsof Word Problem

Hello Chip:

Thanks for the quick reply. I disabled the Word Navigation app with no
change in behavior. I have some additional data to add, though.

There are four reviewers of the document. If I attempt to not show comments
for one of the reviewers, with only the offending document open, the same
misbehavior is exhibited (no speech for the Word document when navigating
and Insert-Tab shortcut no longer functions).

Unfortunately, I am using the Office version of WE. I have only needed WE
for the past 10 months and am eagerly awaiting the release of their Zoom
Text Fusion before plunking down my money, since I still rely on
magnification as well as speech.

Thanks, Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: Chip Orange [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:39 AM
To: Rick Blair <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<[email protected]>
Subject: RE: Microsof Word Problem

Hi Rick,

I don't believe there's any specific app involved here, as the functionality
you describe is part of the basic Window-Eyes.

I did write a word related app named Word Advanced Features, and AI has
written one named Word Navigation; so I guess the best thing to try is to
disable these if you have installed them, to see if the problem is fixed.

If disabling Word Advanced Features fixes the issue, then let me know;
otherwise, I think (assuming you aren't using the free version of
Window-Eyes), however your test turns out, or if you don't have these
installed, I'd let AI support know about the problem by emailing them the
document to their support email.

I've never seen this happen, and have no ideas as to what could be wrong.

Sorry I can't be of more help.

Chip





Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of Rick Blair via Talk
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 11:25 AM
To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'
Subject: Microsof Word Problem

I have a Microsoft Word document that I created that contains 21 pages, 5600
words, 47 comments, numerous perceived misspellings (since it contains XML
code samples), some tracked changes and a couple of graphics. If I open this
document by itself, I have no problem navigating and having WE read the
document. I should mention that some of the comments are quite extensive,
often several paragraphs long. I can use the Insert-Tab keyboard shortcut to
view the various components of the word document. I am not sure what app
provides this functionality, but it works as long as this is the only Word
document open.

 

If I open a second Word document, the Insert-Tab shortcut no longer works on
the aforementioned document and scrolling through the document produces no
speech. This is not the case for the second opened word document, which
works just fine.

 

If I open two small word documents on my PC, WE behaves as expected. I can
switch between the documents and WE reads the text and the Inset-Tab
shortcut works. The problem seems to be related to the document that I
created. I cannot isolate the aspect of that document that causes this
misbehavior.

 

This happens on my work PC running office 2010, Windows 7 Pro, 12 G RAM as
well as my home PC, Office 2013, Win 7 Pro, 18 G Ram. I have the latest
version of WE (9.2 for office) with all updates and correct set files. I
also have Zoom Text, Version 10.0 running on both PCs. Zoom Text can read
the document when WE does not.

 

Rick

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