Hi Stephen, Honestly, I did not nor do I wish to escalate this into an argument, and please allow me to apologize if you are offended by my response to your post, which is below, and to which I have replied once again for clarity. If you read your words below, perhaps you can explain why you suggested that Window-Eyes might not continue to be developed by AI Squared. It seems to me that you were simply joking that you ran the AI Squared post through a binary file analizer and discovered the above information. Either that or you received a copy of the post which did have such embedded information. I would very much like to make peace with you, if possible, but I don't wish myself or AI Squared to be thought of as foolish or victims of ridicule. It's a fine line between letting go and surrender, if you can appreciate where I'm coming from.
Best regards, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Clark via Talk Sent: October 20, 2015 1:43 PM To: David <trailerda...@hotmail.com>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Red Hot News from Ai Squared! Actually, It was binary not text. I ran it through a binary editor, and had it try to extract any text it could find out of it and it found some text which said, we really don't care about all the problems with our screen reader at this point were way over are heads and there may never even be another Window-eyes version. On 10/19/2015 7:56 PM, David via Talk wrote: > Only thing I don't get, is why you would like to put any kind of > teaser out like this. Seems your screen reader needs more attention, > and things need a brush. Then to flush the market with a ton of > teasers, "look what we may bring soon", "Just wait till next year", > and so forth, seems no less than frustrating. > > besides, If this was meant to be a non-textual teaser, with only some > kind of iconic or even grapical appearance, why post it to a list that > mainly is trafficated by more or less blind people. Instead of > teasing, all you accomplished was to frustrate. Honestly, that is no > beneficial business approach. > > I do second the request, that you please keep this list freed from any > more of such stuff. We have enough complaints about people posting > Off-Topic matters here, let alone that we now have to deal with even > the list-managers themselves putting out mails that are nothing but > useless. You know, that is actually another version of what in the > computer world is named SPAM. Unwanted, non-requested and often > useless emails that float into your mailbox. If the owners of this > list find there is a bit too little traffic on the list, why not put > out something readable, informative, and REAL. Stop all that "Stay > tuned and we may happen to show you what we can do" stuff. Get back to > your customers, when you have things ready, and when you are willing > to share it in a manner that your customers actually know to read. > You, AISquared if any, should know what your screen reader can > perform. You would have absolutely no excuse for throwing out mails > like this, then telling the market "oh, sorry, we did not make it > accessible". Please, abstain from any more of this stuff. > > Among others, I did let the synth chatter away, for a minute or two, > trying to figure what it all was about. I immediately recognized it as > html-code, but sometimes you can figure a thing or two, from the few > pieces of text in between the code. This time, a clear waiste of time, > and afterwards, a long line of complaints. And when you come back with > further info on the matter, I really still am scratching my hair off, > to figure what it all was about, or meant to say. Your explanation, > Jeremy, simply gave NO meaning whatsoever. What was the whole message > trying to convey? That you had too much leasure time at work, or is it > possible we are to take this teaser seriously, and hope for an > anouncement in the near future about some exciting news from the > screen reader front? If the latter, why did you not just tell us so, > in plain readable text? even when you were to explain the flaw? Just > wondering. > > Time to get back to what this list - the way I understand it - is > purposed for. Anyone else have some meaningful questions on how to > operate the screen reader? > > On 10/20/2015 12:34 AM, Chip Orange via Talk wrote: >> Thanks for the response Jeremy. >> >> However, even if I had seen the alt text, I would not have understood >> that there was no text to be had in the message, so it would not have >> stopped me from spending that frustrating couple of minutes looking >> for it. >> >> I am one who hopes there are no more "teasers" like this. >> >> Chip >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+chip.orange=gmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Jeremy Curry via Talk >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 4:43 PM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: RE: Red Hot News from Ai Squared! >> >> Hi, >> >> You should have seen Red Hot News from Ai Squared followed by an alt >> tag for an image of a red wig. We put in the alternative text, so my >> only guess is that your email client stripped it out. >> >> It is a teaser campaign for something coming soon. >> >> Stay tuned! >> >> Jeremy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+jcurry=aisquared....@lists.window-eyes.com] On >> Behalf Of Chip Orange via Talk >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 4:18 PM >> To: Bryan Peterson; Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: RE: Red Hot News from Ai Squared! >> >> I don't think it says anything (my gues is that this is on purpose) >> ... I wrote them and told them if so, and if I had this right, then I >> didn't appreciate spending so much time trying to figure out that it >> said nothing. It was frustrating as well as time consuming. >> >> >> Chip >> >> >> >> >> >> Chip Orange >> Florida Public Service Commission >> Computer Systems Analyst >> 850-413-6314 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk >> [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Bryan Peterson via Talk >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 4:00 PM >> To: Sky Mundell; 'Loy'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: Re: Red Hot News from Ai Squared! >> >> Me neither. Just a bunch of formatting gibberish. >> >> >> >> Focus your powers and prepare for buttle. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sky Mundell via Talk >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 1:39 PM >> To: 'Loy' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' >> Subject: RE: Red Hot News from Ai Squared! >> >> Sorry, but I can't read what it says properly. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+skyt=shaw...@lists.window-eyes.com] >> On Behalf Of Loy via Talk >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 11:58 AM >> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Red Hot News from Ai Squared! >> >> Red Hot News from Ai Squared! p{ margin:10px 0; padding:0; } >> table{ border-collapse:collapse; } h1,h2,h3,h4,h5,h6{ display:block; >> margin:0; padding:0; } img,a img{ border:0; height:auto; >> outline:none; text-decoration:none; } body,#bodyTable,#bodyCell{ >> height:100%; margin:0; padding:0; width:100%; } #outlook a{ >> padding:0; } img{ -ms-interpolation-mode:bicubic; } table{ >> mso-table-lspace:0pt; 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} #bodyCell{ border-top:0; } >> .templateContainer{ border:0; } h1{ color:#202020; >> font-family:Helvetica; font-size:26px; font-style:normal; >> font-weight:bold; line-height:32px; letter-spacing:normal; >> text-align:left; } h2{ color:#202020; font-family:Helvetica; >> font-size:22px; font-style:normal; font-weight:bold; >> line-height:30px; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:left; } h3{ >> color:#202020; font-family:Helvetica; font-size:20px; >> font-style:normal; font-weight:bold; line-height:26px; >> letter-spacing:normal; text-align:left; } h4{ color:#202020; >> font-family:Helvetica; font-size:18px; font-style:normal; >> font-weight:bold; line-height:24px; letter-spacing:normal; >> text-align:left; } #templatePreheader{ background-color:#FAFAFA; >> border-top:0; border-bottom:0; padding-top:9px; padding-bottom:9px; } >> #templatePreheader .mcnTextContent,#templatePreheader >> .mcnTextContent p{ color:#656565; font-family:Helvetica; >> font-size:12px; line-height:18px; text-align:left; } >> #templatePreheader .mcnTextContent a,#templatePreheader >> .mcnTextContent p a{ color:#656565; font-weight:normal; >> text-decoration:underline; } #templateHeader{ >> background-color:#FFFFFF; border-top:0; border-bottom:0; >> padding-top:9px; padding-bottom:0; } #templateHeader >> .mcnTextContent,#templateHeader .mcnTextContent p{ color:#202020; >> font-family:Helvetica; font-size:16px; line-height:24px; >> text-align:left; } #templateHeader .mcnTextContent a,#templateHeader >> .mcnTextContent p a{ color:#2BAADF; font-weight:normal; >> text-decoration:underline; } #templateBody{ background-color:#FFFFFF; >> border-top:0; border-bottom:2px solid #EAEAEA; padding-top:0; >> padding-bottom:9px; } #templateBody .mcnTextContent,#templateBody >> .mcnTextContent p{ color:#202020; font-family:Helvetica; >> font-size:16px; line-height:24px; text-align:left; } #templateBody >> .mcnTextContent a,#templateBody .mcnTextContent p a{ color:#2BAADF; >> font-weight:normal; text-decoration:underline; } #templateFooter{ >> background-color:#FAFAFA; border-top:0; border-bottom:0; >> padding-top:9px; padding-bottom:9px; } #templateFooter >> .mcnTextContent,#templateFooter .mcnTextContent p{ color:#656565; >> font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px; line-height:18px; >> text-align:center; } #templateFooter .mcnTextContent >> a,#templateFooter .mcnTextContent p a{ color:#656565; >> font-weight:normal; text-decoration:underline; } @media only screen >> and (min-width:768px){ .templateContainer{ width:600px !important; } >> } @media only screen and >> (max-width: 480px){ >> body,table,td,p,a,li,blockquote{ -webkit-text-size-adjust:none >> !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ body{ >> width:100% !important; min-width:100% !important; } } @media only >> screen and >> (max-width: 480px){ #bodyCell{ padding-top:10px !important; } } >> @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ .mcnImage{ width:100% >> !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ >> .mcnShareContent,.mcnCaptionTopContent,.mcnCaptionBottomContent,.mcnTextContentContainer,.mcnBoxedTextContentContainer,.mcnImageGroupContentContainer,.mcnCaptionLeftTextContentContainer,.mcnCaptionRightTextContentContainer,.mcnCaptionLeftImageContentContainer,.mcnCaptionRightImageContentContainer,.mcnImageCardLeftTextContentContainer,.mcnImageCardRightTextContentContainer{ >> max-width:100% !important; width:100% !important; } } @media only >> screen and >> (max-width: 480px){ .mcnBoxedTextContentContainer{ min-width:100% >> !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ >> .mcnImageGroupContent{ padding:9px !important; } } @media only screen >> and >> (max-width: 480px){ .mcnCaptionLeftContentOuter >> .mcnTextContent,.mcnCaptionRightContentOuter .mcnTextContent{ >> padding-top:9px !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: >> 480px){ .mcnImageCardTopImageContent,.mcnCaptionBlockInner >> .mcnCaptionTopContent:last-child .mcnTextContent{ padding-top:18px >> !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ >> .mcnImageCardBottomImageContent{ padding-bottom:9px !important; } } >> @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ .mcnImageGroupBlockInner{ >> padding-top:0 !important; padding-bottom:0 !important; } } @media >> only screen and >> (max-width: 480px){ .mcnImageGroupBlockOuter{ padding-top:9px >> !important; padding-bottom:9px !important; } } @media only screen and >> (max-width: >> 480px){ .mcnTextContent,.mcnBoxedTextContentColumn{ >> padding-right:18px !important; padding-left:18px !important; } } >> @media only screen and >> (max-width: 480px){ >> .mcnImageCardLeftImageContent,.mcnImageCardRightImageContent{ >> padding-right:18px !important; padding-bottom:0 !important; >> padding-left:18px !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: >> 480px){ .mcpreview-image-uploader{ display:none !important; >> width:100% !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ >> h1{ font-size:22px !important; line-height:28px !important; } } >> @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ h2{ font-size:20px >> !important; line-height:26px !important; } } @media only screen and >> (max-width: >> 480px){ h3{ font-size:18px !important; line-height:24px !important; } >> } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ h4{ font-size:16px >> !important; line-height:22px !important; } } @media only screen and >> (max-width: >> 480px){ .mcnBoxedTextContentContainer >> .mcnTextContent,.mcnBoxedTextContentContainer .mcnTextContent p{ >> font-size:14px !important; line-height:22px !important; } } @media >> only screen and (max-width: 480px){ #templatePreheader{ display:block >> !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ >> #templatePreheader .mcnTextContent,#templatePreheader .mcnTextContent >> p{ font-size:14px !important; line-height:22px !important; } } @media >> only screen and (max-width: 480px){ #templateHeader >> .mcnTextContent,#templateHeader .mcnTextContent p{ font-size:16px >> !important; line-height:24px !important; } } @media only screen and >> (max-width: 480px){ #templateBody .mcnTextContent,#templateBody >> .mcnTextContent p{ font-size:16px !important; line-height:24px >> !important; } } @media only screen and (max-width: 480px){ >> #templateFooter .mcnTextContent,#templateFooter .mcnTextContent p{ >> font-size:14px !important; line-height:22px !important; } } >> >> >> >> Well, I wonder what it could be. A new version of Window Eyes, A new >> version of ZoomText, a combined version of WE and ZT, I guess we'll >> just have to wait to see! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: Ai Squared >> >> >> >> To: Loy >> >> >> >> Sent: Monday, October 19, 2015 2:00 PM >> >> Subject: Red Hot News from Ai Squared! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Red Hot news coming soon! >> >> View this email in your browser >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> RED HOT news coming soon! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Copyright © 2015 Ai Squared, All rights >> reserved. >> You are receiving this email because you >> signed up for ZoomNews at our website. >> >> Our mailing address is: >> >> Ai Squared >> >> PO Box 669 >> Manchester Center, VT 05255 >> Add us to your address book >> >> Want to change how you receive these emails? >> You can update your preferences or >> unsubscribe from this list >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/skyt%40shaw.ca. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author >> and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/bpeterson2000%40cableone.net. >> >> >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/corange%40psc.state.fl.us. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jcurry%40aisquared.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/chip.orange%40gmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the >> author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. >> >> For membership options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/trailerdavid%40hotmail.com. >> For subscription options, visit >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com >> List archives can be found at >> http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the > author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. > > For membership options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/sclark04%40twcny.rr.com. > For subscription options, visit > http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com > List archives can be found at > http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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