Don,

In my Dell inWin7, you can turn off the touchpad by getting your list of 
systray icons and there's one for the touchpad control software.  I can't 
remember if you right click it and use a context menu, or double click it and 
go into the software; but this lets you do it in such a way that it's easily 
undone if a sighted person wants to help you, or use, your pc.

You can also disable the touchpad as you say in the device manager, but then 
it's really difficult for a sighted user to deal with that.

Chip





Chip Orange
Florida Public Service Commission
Computer Systems Analyst
850-413-6314



-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] 
On Behalf Of Don H via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 9:42 PM
To: Pamela Dominguez; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes

I could be doing it the wrong way but for stopping such things as the 
finger print reader I just go into the device manager and disable it.
One other issue I have had with a HP laptop and Windows 10 is that the 
touch pad has no way to turn it off.  There is no special function key, 
a place to hit on the touch pad nor a BIOS way to disable it.  In the 
case of the HP Envy laptop I have there is one driver that allows you to 
disable the touch pad if you have a external mouse plugged in however 
with the Windows 10 auto update feature the driver gets updated that 
prevents this from being turned off.  There is a way to turn off auto 
updates for drivers under advanced system settings but apparently the 
last update broke this feature, least that is what the Microsoft 
disability hot line person I talked to said.  I did finally find a 
driver that allowed the disabling of the touch pad that Windows 10 did 
not want to update.  If there is a issue with windows 10 that I don't 
like it is the auto updates you can't disable.  

On 11/2/2015 8:17 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> That only works in windows ten though, am I right?  Pam.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Raj via Talk
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 5:08 PM
> To: don bishop ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes
>
> Okay, here are some instructions if this is the one you have.
> Replace the word click with enter on.
> To disable finger print, do the following.
> Step 1
> Click the Windows "Start" button and choose "All Programs."
>
> Step 2
> Click "Access IBM" from the list of programs. Select "Fingerprint Software"
> and click "Control Center."
>
> Step 3
> Choose "Settings" and select "Logon Settings." Remove the check marks next
> to "Replace windows logon with fingerprint protect logon" and "Power-On
> Security."
>
> Step 4
> Close the open windows and restart your computer for the changes to take
> effect.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "don bishop via Talk"
> <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 4:56 PM
> Subject: Fw: laptops and window-eyes
>
>
>> If the lenovo isn't the best choice can you suggest something better?
>> I know some laptops use proprietary sztware which may not work as well
>> with screen readers.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> don
>>
>>
>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>> From: Raj via Talk  <[email protected]>
>> To: "Rick Jarvis"  <[email protected]>,"Window-Eyes Discussion
>> List" <[email protected]>
>> Date: Monday, November 2, 2015 12:38 pm
>> Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know, the Lenovo is not the best one for us, I use to work with
>>> some of
>>> the clients who had them, and had to advise the company/supplier to
>>> change
>>> it. was a nightmare for some people.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Jarvis via Talk"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> To: "Pamela Dominguez" <[email protected]>; "Window-Eyes
>>> Discussion List"
>>> <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes
>>>
>>>
>>> > Is there any way to disable it?
>>> >
>>> > On 11/2/2015 12:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>>> >> I just bought a Lenovo Thinkpad with a numberpad.  It's thinner and
>>> >> somewhat lighter than my Dell that doesn't have one.  But the keys
>>> are
>>> >> all squished together, so you have to watch out when you use it.  The
>>> >> other thing that is annoying is that it has that awful finger print
>>> >> thing that's in the middle of everything and things happen when you
>>> >> accidentally touch it.  Pam.
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message----- From: Chip Orange via Talk
>>> >> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:04 PM
>>> >> To: don bishop be Window-Eyes Discussion List
>>> >> Subject: RE: laptops and window-eyes
>>> >>
>>> >> Hi Don,
>>> >>
>>> >> While Marilyn's point is a nice one, and I have such a Dell laptop at
>>> >> home with a numpad, it weighs about 5 pounds.  If you want one which
>>> >> weighs around 2 pounds which you can easily carry around with you, I
>>> >> don't believe it will be possible to get one with a numpad on the
>>> >> keypad.
>>> >>
>>> >> Marilyn's suggestion of carrying around an external numpad is one
>>> way >> of
>>> >> dealing with this, but as she says, an awkward one.  It's not the
>>> only
>>> >> one however; Window-Eyes does offer a laptop keyboard layout
>>> >> specifically for those keyboards which don't have numpads.  They move
>>> >> all the functions which would be handled by a numpad on to other
>>> keys.
>>> >>
>>> >> Alternatively, instead of using the WE laptop layout, almost all
>>> >> laptops
>>> >> have a special key which make a group of keys centered around the
>>> j, >> k,
>>> >> and l keys act like they are a numpad when you hold down this special
>>> >> key.  This is how I used WE with my previous Dell laptop which was
>>> >> smaller, and which did not have a numpad on its keyboard.  I found
>>> >> this
>>> >> very easy to adapt to (actually easier than switching to the laptop
>>> >> layout), although you may need some sighted help (or support help
>>> from
>>> >> the manufacturer) initially to find the special key, and to know what
>>> >> keystrokes it generates when used with other keyboard keys.
>>> >>
>>> >> So, it all depends on what your needs are, and which keyboard you
>>> wish
>>> >> to purchase, and how you wish to adapt to not having a numpad if you
>>> >> want the smaller laptops; but don't think you could ever adjust to
>>> >> some
>>> >> different layout, it's much easier than you'd believe.
>>> >>
>>> >> Hth,
>>> >>
>>> >> Chip
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Chip Orange
>>> >> Florida Public Service Commission
>>> >> Computer Systems Analyst
>>> >> 850-413-6314
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Talk
>>> >>
>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On
>>> >> Behalf Of don bishop via Talk
>>> >> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:21 PM
>>> >> To: [email protected]
>>> >> Subject: laptops and window-eyes
>>> >>
>>> >> Any suggestions for a laptop which works well with window-eyes?
>>> >> Thanks,
>>> >> Don
>>> >>
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