I recently saw an assist computer with a keyboard and numb pad nice spacing 
between function keys for eight and 12. I would like to see that in a 
solid-state drive computer. Just my thoughts.

Jo Taliaferro 

On Nov 2, 2015, at 8:12 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk 
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:

On top of that, I had to find out how to change the action of the function 
keys, because the default was different.  For anybody who has this, my tech 
found out that it is a toggle of function key escape that does this. Anyway, 
the configuration being different, there is a touchpad, but no six pack.  The 
page up and down are to the left and right of the up arrow, making that look 
like a six pack, and the rest of the sixpack are in a row along the top.  So 
when I use it, I have to do it slowly and be careful. Pam.

-----Original Message----- From: Raj via Talk
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:40 PM
To: Rick Jarvis ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes

I know, the Lenovo is not the best one for us, I use to work with some of
the clients who had them, and had to advise the company/supplier to change
it. was a nightmare for some people.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Jarvis via Talk" 
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To: "Pamela Dominguez" <geo...@optonline.net>; "Window-Eyes Discussion List"
<talk@lists.window-eyes.com>
Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: laptops and window-eyes


> Is there any way to disable it?
> 
>> On 11/2/2015 12:24 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
>> I just bought a Lenovo Thinkpad with a numberpad.  It's thinner and
>> somewhat lighter than my Dell that doesn't have one.  But the keys are
>> all squished together, so you have to watch out when you use it.  The
>> other thing that is annoying is that it has that awful finger print
>> thing that's in the middle of everything and things happen when you
>> accidentally touch it.  Pam.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Chip Orange via Talk
>> Sent: Monday, November 02, 2015 12:04 PM
>> To: don bishop ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
>> Subject: RE: laptops and window-eyes
>> 
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> While Marilyn's point is a nice one, and I have such a Dell laptop at
>> home with a numpad, it weighs about 5 pounds.  If you want one which
>> weighs around 2 pounds which you can easily carry around with you, I
>> don't believe it will be possible to get one with a numpad on the keypad.
>> 
>> Marilyn's suggestion of carrying around an external numpad is one way of
>> dealing with this, but as she says, an awkward one.  It's not the only
>> one however; Window-Eyes does offer a laptop keyboard layout
>> specifically for those keyboards which don't have numpads.  They move
>> all the functions which would be handled by a numpad on to other keys.
>> 
>> Alternatively, instead of using the WE laptop layout, almost all laptops
>> have a special key which make a group of keys centered around the j, k,
>> and l keys act like they are a numpad when you hold down this special
>> key.  This is how I used WE with my previous Dell laptop which was
>> smaller, and which did not have a numpad on its keyboard.  I found this
>> very easy to adapt to (actually easier than switching to the laptop
>> layout), although you may need some sighted help (or support help from
>> the manufacturer) initially to find the special key, and to know what
>> keystrokes it generates when used with other keyboard keys.
>> 
>> So, it all depends on what your needs are, and which keyboard you wish
>> to purchase, and how you wish to adapt to not having a numpad if you
>> want the smaller laptops; but don't think you could ever adjust to some
>> different layout, it's much easier than you'd believe.
>> 
>> Hth,
>> 
>> Chip
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Chip Orange
>> Florida Public Service Commission
>> Computer Systems Analyst
>> 850-413-6314
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Talk
>> [mailto:talk-bounces+corange=psc.state.fl...@lists.window-eyes.com] On
>> Behalf Of don bishop via Talk
>> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2015 12:21 PM
>> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
>> Subject: laptops and window-eyes
>> 
>> Any suggestions for a laptop which works well with window-eyes?
>> Thanks,
>> Don
>> 
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