Hi Rick, I have changed the subject line and decided to copy this reply to the talk list as well, in case anyone might wish to be made aware of developments in the world of CapEnhance. Thanks for your kind words to me and mine, and allow me to wish the very same good fortune to you and yours for the holidays and the upcoming New Year. Incidentally, I've tested both the present and the immediately prior versions of CapEnhance, and I've determined that the behaviour your experiencing, that is, the speaking single-character words, like "I", in the enhanced manner during read-to-end, has to be the result of the newest upgrade of Window-Eyes. To be honest, I had never tested my app with either Eloquence or DECtalk Access-32 (Window-Eyes) during read-to-end with Window-Eyes 9.2, and so I must accept from you that this is new behaviour caused by the upgrade. I must say that I am not seeing this behavior with SAPI voices. If you wish me to make any modification to the app in order to help you deal with this new state of affairs, please let me know. For example perhaps a hot key would be a good enhancement for the app after all, especially given that you might be overwhelmed listening to all those enhanced "I"'s, and you could just toggle off the enhanced speaking of apps before engaging read-to-end easier with a hot key, and then toggle it on again afterwards. Otherwise, we'll just wait and see what the future holds. <smile>
Take care, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com] Sent: December 24, 2015 6:14 AM To: 'Rod Hutton' <rod_hut...@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep First Rod, turkey is good. Now, it is not a problem but just unexpected. Finally, Amen with a bullet to your comment that there are already too many hot keys! Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to you and your family. And, thanks for being a major support to anyone working with the WindowEyes platform. I just want to plug something in and have it work as expected and never, never find that anymore with almost anything in life - computers, headphones, software, keyboards, or many other products and the choices blue tooth, rf, bios, WindowEyes settings and Microsoft settings and operating system parameters and options. Everything has installation instructions, assembly instructions or so many options that I cant keep them all in mind anymore. So your comment that you don't have a toggle hot key is a major blessing - if I want it on or off I can do it in the WE Control panel and not worry about hitting some key combo that accedently turns it on and off without me intending to do that as a result of my old brain forgetting that particular key combo among the hundreds, thousands?, for everything else like WindowEyes, Windows10, Outlook, InternetExplorer or any other programs or apps that may, or not, be running at any given time, sigh! Rick USA -----Original Message----- From: Rod Hutton [mailto:rod_hut...@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:44 AM To: 'Rick Thomas' <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep Hi Rick, CapEnhance does not have a hot key option to toggle the enhanced speaking of caps since I wanted to avoid another hot key in the already overloaded hot key environment of Window-Eyes. Actually, what I did was to turn on and off the enhancement provided by the app. By turning on and off my app in the CapEnhance Configuration menu, this had the effect of resetting the normal cap pitch functionality already built into Window-Eyes. This functionality was not, as I say, working after upgrading to Window-Eyes 9.3 using Neospeech VW-Kate, even after, on Steve Clower's suggestion, I upgraded to the most current version of 9.3. AI Squared had made available this upgrade to help users of Neospeech voices. Anyway, the point is that turning the enhanced speaking of caps on and then off again made even Window-Eyes normal cap pitch functionality work properly, although I'm not sure why. Smile At any rate, whether I use the enhancement provided by my CapEnhance app, or turn it off in the CapEnhance Configuration menu, caps are speaking as they should using VW-Kate as my primary synth. I can duplicate your experience with Eloquence, that is, the word "I" is spoken in a higher pitch when the pitch enhancement provided by CapEnhance is enabled. This happens in read-to-end and even when navigating to the word -I" using normal cursor movement keys. I've noticed that this also happens in dialog boxes, where the accelerator letter for the default button is spoken with enhancement. Funny, though, since I haven't noticed this with VW-Kate, although I just tested DECTalk Access-32 (Window-Eyes), and it duplicates the Eloquence behaviour. I made a change to the app in the most recent update and this could be the cause of the problem. I could simply reverse the change in an update. Let me scarf down some turkey and I'll be back in touch. (big grin) All the best for the holidays, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Rick Thomas [mailto:ofbgm...@mi.rr.com] Sent: December 23, 2015 4:49 AM To: 'Rod Hutton' <rod_hut...@hotmail.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Tom Kingston' <tom.kings...@charter.net> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep Hi Rod: Do you mean you just toggled it on and off and on again using hot keys and it fixed whatever problem you were having? I run Eloquence and the only unusual thing is that the letter "I" is read in a high pitched voice during a read to end. Otherwise your script seems to be running normally and I don't even know at this time if it is caused by yur script or something else. By the way, while I have your ear, what is the toggle hot key combo and is it safe to toggle it or exactly what type of reading problem did you encounter prior to toggling the script on and off? Rick USA -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:10 PM To: 'Tom Kingston' <tom.kings...@charter.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep Hi Tom and Rick, One thing I noticed is that my CapEnhance app can have an effect on the speaking of caps by toggling my app on and off. On my particular system, the speaking of caps with pitch change wasn't working properly after my upgrade to Window-Eyes 9.3 with Neospeech VW-Kate. Because my app toggles screen and keyboard cap pitch as part of its code, I decided to test what effect toggling my app's cap enhancement facility would have upon my problem, and, sure enough, it seemed to correct my problem. Go figure. Smile All the best, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: December 22, 2015 1:19 PM To: 'Rick Thomas' <ofbgm...@mi.rr.com>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep Regarding the pitch shift? Make sure that Screen, Other, Capitalization alert is off. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+tom.kingston=charter....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:48 AM To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'net bat'; 'Don H' Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep Hi: This problem has seemingly gone away, no lost speech in a couple of days now. I have tweaked settings, downloaded a couple of audio / sound drivers so am not sure which worked if any of these actions had anything to do with the loss of speech during the read to end process. The drivers under the real talk sound card under the sound item were up to date but the 2 I had under the gaming item updated so were not up to date after the Windows10 install it seems. The only other thing I notice during read to end is that whenever the word I as in I am having fun, speaks in a quite higher pitch while reading with the read line command, down arrow, does not read it in the higher pitch - a little annoying with the high pitch but perhaps that is a result of a script I have or because of some setting and it does not comprimise the content so is put on the back burner while I try to iron out other little problems. But, thought I would touch bases and let you know things are not continuing, no more sudden speech loss during read to end, which was quite prevalent a few days ago. Later and see you on the flip side. Rick USA -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 6:07 AM To: 'net bat' <net...@comcast.net>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' <talk@lists.window-eyes.com>; 'Don H' <lmdd...@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep I too have lost speech during read to end in InternetExplorer so this is not unique to those programs. Rick USA -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+ofbgmail=mi.rr....@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 12:10 AM To: Don H <lmdd...@comcast.net>; Window-Eyes Discussion List <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> Subject: Re: Loss of speech when returning from sleep its not just sleep mode. i am loosseing speech in wlm and in firefox too. usually with read to end. sometimes while just typeing a message in wlm. -----Original Message----- From: Don H via Talk Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:36 PM To: Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Loss of speech when returning from sleep Anyone else having a issue of losing speech when your laptop returns from sleep mode? This has started after installing WE 9.3.1 on my Windows 10 64 bit laptop. _______________________________________________ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. 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