Rod, For what it's worth, you could hook the Window-Eyes OnHotkey event and watch for the RTE command so you could suspend your cap processing until RTE ends. The Read to Me app shows a way to do this.
Steve -- Stephen Clower Window-Eyes Product Support and App Development Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com Sent from my phone. > On Dec 26, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > I have changed the subject line and decided to copy this reply to the talk > list as well, in case anyone might wish to be made aware of developments in > the world of CapEnhance. > Thanks for your kind words to me and mine, and allow me to wish the very same > good fortune to you and yours for the holidays and the upcoming New Year. > Incidentally, I've tested both the present and the immediately prior versions > of CapEnhance, and I've determined that the behaviour your experiencing, that > is, the speaking single-character words, like "I", in the enhanced manner > during read-to-end, has to be the result of the newest upgrade of > Window-Eyes. > To be honest, I had never tested my app with either Eloquence or DECtalk > Access-32 (Window-Eyes) during read-to-end with Window-Eyes 9.2, and so I > must accept from you that this is new behaviour caused by the upgrade. > I must say that I am not seeing this behavior with SAPI voices. > If you wish me to make any modification to the app in order to help you deal > with this new state of affairs, please let me know. > For example perhaps a hot key would be a good enhancement for the app after > all, especially given that you might be overwhelmed listening to all those > enhanced "I"'s, and you could just toggle off the enhanced speaking of apps > before engaging read-to-end easier with a hot key, and then toggle it on > again afterwards. > Otherwise, we'll just wait and see what the future holds. <smile> > > Take care, > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: December 24, 2015 6:14 AM > To: 'Rod Hutton' <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > First Rod, turkey is good. > Now, it is not a problem but just unexpected. > Finally, Amen with a bullet to your comment that there are already too many > hot keys! > Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays to you and your family. > And, thanks for being a major support to anyone working with the WindowEyes > platform. > I just want to plug something in and have it work as expected and never, > never find that anymore with almost anything in life - computers, > headphones, software, keyboards, or many other products and the choices blue > tooth, rf, bios, WindowEyes settings and Microsoft settings and operating > system parameters and options. > Everything has installation instructions, assembly instructions or so many > options that I cant keep them all in mind anymore. > So your comment that you don't have a toggle hot key is a major blessing - > if I want it on or off I can do it in the WE Control panel and not worry > about hitting some key combo that accedently turns it on and off without me > intending to do that as a result of my old brain forgetting that particular > key combo among the hundreds, thousands?, for everything else like > WindowEyes, Windows10, Outlook, InternetExplorer or any other programs or > apps that may, or not, be running at any given time, sigh! > Rick USA > -----Original Message----- > From: Rod Hutton [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 11:44 AM > To: 'Rick Thomas' <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > Hi Rick, > > CapEnhance does not have a hot key option to toggle the enhanced speaking of > caps since I wanted to avoid another hot key in the already overloaded hot > key environment of Window-Eyes. > Actually, what I did was to turn on and off the enhancement provided by the > app. > By turning on and off my app in the CapEnhance Configuration menu, this had > the effect of resetting the normal cap pitch functionality already built > into Window-Eyes. > This functionality was not, as I say, working after upgrading to Window-Eyes > 9.3 using Neospeech VW-Kate, even after, on Steve Clower's suggestion, I > upgraded to the most current version of 9.3. > AI Squared had made available this upgrade to help users of Neospeech > voices. > Anyway, the point is that turning the enhanced speaking of caps on and then > off again made even Window-Eyes normal cap pitch functionality work > properly, although I'm not sure why. Smile > At any rate, whether I use the enhancement provided by my CapEnhance app, or > turn it off in the CapEnhance Configuration menu, caps are speaking as they > should using VW-Kate as my primary synth. > I can duplicate your experience with Eloquence, that is, the word "I" is > spoken in a higher pitch when the pitch enhancement provided by CapEnhance > is enabled. > This happens in read-to-end and even when navigating to the word -I" using > normal cursor movement keys. > I've noticed that this also happens in dialog boxes, where the accelerator > letter for the default button is spoken with enhancement. > Funny, though, since I haven't noticed this with VW-Kate, although I just > tested DECTalk Access-32 (Window-Eyes), and it duplicates the Eloquence > behaviour. > I made a change to the app in the most recent update and this could be the > cause of the problem. > I could simply reverse the change in an update. > Let me scarf down some turkey and I'll be back in touch. (big grin) > > All the best for the holidays, > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Thomas [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: December 23, 2015 4:49 AM > To: 'Rod Hutton' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > <[email protected]>; 'Tom Kingston' <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > Hi Rod: Do you mean you just toggled it on and off and on again using hot > keys and it fixed whatever problem you were having? > I run Eloquence and the only unusual thing is that the letter "I" is read in > a high pitched voice during a read to end. Otherwise your script seems to be > running normally and I don't even know at this time if it is caused by yur > script or something else. > By the way, while I have your ear, what is the toggle hot key combo and is > it safe to toggle it or exactly what type of reading problem did you > encounter prior to toggling the script on and off? > Rick USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 7:10 PM > To: 'Tom Kingston' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > Hi Tom and Rick, > > One thing I noticed is that my CapEnhance app can have an effect on the > speaking of caps by toggling my app on and off. On my particular system, > the speaking of caps with pitch change wasn't working properly after my > upgrade to Window-Eyes 9.3 with Neospeech VW-Kate. Because my app toggles > screen and keyboard cap pitch as part of its code, I decided to test what > effect toggling my app's cap enhancement facility would have upon my > problem, and, sure enough, it seemed to correct my problem. Go figure. > Smile > > All the best, > > Rod > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Tom Kingston via Talk > Sent: December 22, 2015 1:19 PM > To: 'Rick Thomas' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > Regarding the pitch shift? Make sure that Screen, Other, Capitalization > alert is off. > > Tom > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2015 8:48 AM > To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'net bat'; 'Don H' > Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > Hi: This problem has seemingly gone away, no lost speech in a couple of days > now. > I have tweaked settings, downloaded a couple of audio / sound drivers so am > not sure which worked if any of these actions had anything to do with the > loss of speech during the read to end process. > The drivers under the real talk sound card under the sound item were up to > date but the 2 I had under the gaming item updated so were not up to date > after the Windows10 install it seems. > The only other thing I notice during read to end is that whenever the word I > as in I am having fun, speaks in a quite higher pitch while reading with the > read line command, down arrow, does not read it in the higher pitch - a > little annoying with the high pitch but perhaps that is a result of a script > I have or because of some setting and it does not comprimise the content so > is put on the back burner while I try to iron out other little problems. > But, thought I would touch bases and let you know things are not continuing, > no more sudden speech loss during read to end, which was quite prevalent a > few days ago. > Later and see you on the flip side. > Rick USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 6:07 AM > To: 'net bat' <[email protected]>; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' > <[email protected]>; 'Don H' <[email protected]> > Subject: RE: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > I too have lost speech during read to end in InternetExplorer so this is not > unique to those programs. > Rick USA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of net bat via Talk > Sent: Monday, December 21, 2015 12:10 AM > To: Don H <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > its not just sleep mode. i am loosseing speech in wlm and in firefox too. > usually with read to end. sometimes while just typeing a message in wlm. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Don H via Talk > Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2015 2:36 PM > To: Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Loss of speech when returning from sleep > > Anyone else having a issue of losing speech when your laptop returns > from sleep mode? 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