Hi Pam, Also, some apps are global and provide additional functionality not previously available.
Hth, Rod -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk Sent: February 17, 2016 3:56 PM To: [email protected]; Window-Eyes Discussion List <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Is Window-Eyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? Yes, I have never heard of window eyes aps using iCloud. I don't know enough about them, but I think they just function in window eyes and work with whatever program they are meant to make work better with window eyes. Pam. -----Original Message----- From: John Farley via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 2:52 PM To: 'Tom Fairhurst' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Tom Kingston' Subject: RE: Is Window-Eyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? Tom, My understanding is that the WE Apps are just ways of making the use of WE in some circumstances easier to navigate and use. I do not believe that they use ICloud at all. Of course, there may be a number of WE Apps that do require use of iCloud, but these I expect to be exceptions. Script writers should be able to confirm this. Regards, John Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 -----Original Message----- From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf of Tom Fairhurst via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 7:45 PM To: Tom Kingston; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? It's interesting that iCloud may be a culprit. However, if you do that, how can you work with ITunes, Amazon, etc.? Or, do each of their apps work without iCloud, itself? -----Original Message----- From: Tom Kingston via Talk Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:29 AM To: [email protected] ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Rick Thomas' Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? yes, John. It's also a good idea to open IE, Alt-T Tools, manage add-ons, and disable anything you don't absolutely need. Regards, Tom On 2/17/2016 12:19 PM, John Farley wrote: > Tom, in a note a short while ago I have suggested that it might be iCloud > that is having such an impact. > > > > Regards, John > > Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243 > Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Talk > [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Tom Kingston via Talk > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 5:15 PM > To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List > Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? > > Something else must be causing all these IE crashes you folks are > getting because it never crashes on me. Well, maybe once or twice a year. > > Tom > > > On 2/17/2016 10:41 AM, Rick Thomas via Talk wrote: >> Yes: It seems JAWS also encounters the same problem but it allows for >> working with the close program dialog. >> So it is not a problem unique to WindowEyes. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]] > On >> Behalf Of Elizabeth via Talk >> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:48 AM >> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >> Subject: Re: Is WindowEyes Causing All Internet And Other Crashes? >> >> I actually never thought Window-eyes was causing the browser crashing >> problem in IE. I just know Window-eyes does not announce the crash >> and NVDA lets me know what is happening by announcing the crash once >> I invoke NVDA. >> By the way, using more than one screen reader to accomplish various >> tasks is something folks have been doing for twenty years. So having >> two screen readers on your system just makes good sense to me. >> >> Elizabeth >> >> At 09:17 AM 2/17/2016, you wrote: >>> I have some sight and when I have had this problem, I have shut >>> down Window Eyes and tried IE and I get the same dialog "IE has >>> stopped working". 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