Hi Mark:

I'm using an Acer Aspire v3-572p laptop running Windows 10.  I tried Fusion
under Windows 8 and Windows 10 and the Insert-f4 command wouldn't work. It
showed up in Key Describer, and I even changed it from it's default,
thinking there might be something amiss with my function key row, but, no
difference.

I will try it on another laptop, this weekend just to see what might happen.

Here is my system info from ZoomText's help dialog.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Marc Solomon [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:39 PM
To: Joseph Norton <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<[email protected]>; Jeremy Curry <[email protected]>
Subject: RE: WE Vs. Fusion

Hi Joseph,

Great feedback on Fusion, thanks. With that said, I am able to shut down
Fusion using Insert+F4 with no issue. I wish I could explain why it didn't
work for you. Maybe you can send along your system specs so the Fusion QA
team can try and duplicate.

Best,
Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Talk
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
Of Joseph Norton via Talk
Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 2:53 PM
To: Jeremy Curry <[email protected]>; Window-Eyes Discussion List
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: WE Vs. Fusion

Hi Jeremy:

First, great job on Fusion.

Although I am not a user of low vision products, I just had to check out
fusion and see how well the screen-reader part worked.

I can't answer which hotkeys didn't work with the other user, but, I can
tell you about a couple minor issues which you may be aware of.

I don't know if this is appropriate for the "Talk" list, so, will not keep
posting about this too much.

First, the new Learning Center is fantastic!  And, the Tutor mode will be
great for newbies who use the screen-reader part also.

Also, if a person buys Fusion, and, looses his/her sight (not that we want
that to happen), or maybe their eyes get tired, they definitely are
benefited by paying for Fusion.  Worst case scenario, they get the
Magnification product, and, if they need it later, they've already got a
great screen-reader and they probably wouldn't need to pay $895 for
Window-Eyes.  I guess one can look at the pricing in 2 ways.  One, if you
want ZoomText, but, might need Window-Eyes, you get Window-Eyes for $400
extra.  If you want Window-Eyes, but, need magnification for a while, you
get the magnification for $100 extra.  Reason I say this, is, if you bought
ZoomText for $595 then Window-Eyes for $895, that's about $1700.  So, if you
buy Fusion you're saving about $800 and getting the best of both worlds.

Anyway, the 2 issues I most noticed were these:

When installing the product, the program sometimes interrupts the setup
wizard to check for app updates, then, the user will have to manually enable
the wizard again if they want to use it.  This behavior doesn't happen all
the time, so, it may be hard to track down, but, thought I'd mention it.

Also, the hotkey Insert+f4 does not shut down the program as listed
(however, I'll have to read the manual to see what it says about that key).
I changed to the Window-Eyes default layout just to see if that made any
difference, but, it didn't.

I wish I could comment on the magnification side of things, but, I am
totally blind.  I just had to try out Fusion to see what it was like from my
point of view.

Here's to the introduction of a great product which gives the user the best
of both worlds.

Thanks for your time!



On 2/17/16, Jeremy Curry via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Reeva,
>
> Thank you for responding to this message on the list, and I am glad 
> you are liking ZT Fusion.  Would you be able to tell me what app hot 
> keys you had to change?  If we missed any keys, I want to make sure we 
> address this in the future.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jeremy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Talk 
> [mailto:[email protected]]
> On Behalf Of Reeva Webb via Talk
> Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2016 7:12 PM
> To: Joseph Norton; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: WE Vs. Fusion
>
> Hi, approaching the end of my fusion trial. There's we key layout you 
> can change fusion to in settings. That's the first thing I changed.  
> It's pretty much we and zt working good together finally. Outside of a 
> couple app hot keys i had to change there was no issue for me going 
> from using we and zt together  as seperate products to fusion.  
> Unfortunately, there isn't a way to just restart the screenreader 
> part. You have to restart the whole program, which takes forever most 
> likely due to the zt part though
> ai2 said a update was ciming to help with this issue. I like it. If you're
> in the   Really low vision boat like me and rely mostly on speech but
still
> use  magnifacation for some things fusion is a  program i suggest buying.
>
> Reeva
>
> On Tuesday, February 16, 2016, Joseph Norton via Talk < 
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>>
>> Haven't seen much on this list, but, I'm curious about fusion.
>>
>>
>>
>> How much like Window-Eyes is fusion if you turn off the ZoomText 
>> functionality?
>>
>>
>>
>> Looks rather similar, but, the hotkeys are different and I don't seem 
>> to see an option to restart the screen reader if things lock up.
>>
>>
>>
>> Otherwise, I almost have the feel I'm running Window-Eyes whenever I 
>> just use the screen reader part.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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