Jonathan,
Here's a quick crash course answer. And it's all off the top of my head.
So I assume no liability for consequential, existential, or
intercontinental damages.
You can only have one "active" window. But that's a bit misleading. The
Window-Eyes windows act somewhat like program windows and child windows
in a program. While you always have to have the main program window,
which is nothing more than a frame, everything within it is a child
window of that window. That is unless you're a Mozilla developer and put
up a window frame and then make all of its children direct children of
the desktop. They need serious long-term psychiatric therapy. But I
digress. In Window-Eyes the normal ancestry used by sane developers
works with precedence.
Window 0 has the highest precedence. So in effect it is the parent
window. for example, if you made window 0 silent then it's not going to
matter what you do with the other 99 windows because their precedence is
lower than that of window 0.
Therefore, typically window 0 is the active window, neutral, and uses
auto-determined highlighting. Generally this will serve you best for
normal usage of the program. Then you can move up and configure, for
example, window 1 to always speak the text you want that's in a
particular color. That window doesn't have to be active if it's a speak
window. Alternatively you can make it a neutral window and assign a hot
key to it so you can have it speak when you want. If you do assign a hot
key make sure to give it program scope.
How you handle the text in a particular color depends on how you want it
to work and how much information you can pin down about it. If you have
mouse access you can use it to set the window coordinates using the hot
keys. You can set the foreground/background and highlight color in the
window properties to "accept mouse." But these dialogs will only appear
if you uncheck match any foreground and background colors and
auto-determine highlight color. Then just tab through the manual options
until you come to the "Accept mouse" button.
Then there's the approach of using hyperactive windows, which I'll
simply leave at that for the moment.
When you're done whipping up windows don't forget to set the main window
back to 0 and save the set file.
Hth,
Tom
On 3/18/2016 9:31 PM, Jonathan Cohn via Talk wrote:
Hello,
I have struggled with User windows, since I learned Window-Eyes scripting at
the same time I learned Window-Eyes.
When working with some programs, I find there is text in a specific color that
should be indicated to the user at presentation and that the WindowClips
functionality of Window-Eyes works, it seems a bit overkill.
Can you tell me how to have all maroon text in a specific application speak
using User-Windows. I have read the documentation on UserWIndows a couple of
times, but can’t figure out if more than one can be active, how to set a
highlight color for one, and other likely controls.
Best wishes,
Jonathan
On Mar 18, 2016, at 10:30, via Talk <talk@lists.window-eyes.com> wrote:
Hello,
Since installing version 9.X, I have discovered that User Windows do not
always work as they once did.
After wrestling with this for a while, I finally called A I's tech
support and was told that these User Windows are no longer Supported,
and that A I Squared can not guarantee they will work.
When I asked about an alternative to User Windows, I was told I could
write a Script.
Perhaps not many used the User Window feature, but I sure did. And I
found being able to read selected parts of a screen, or to auto read
parts of a screen to be quite valuable, and I used these features all
the time.
Not everyone is a Script writer, and after listening to several of
Chip's lessons on writing Scripts, Grumpy Dave is not going to be writing
any scripts any time soon.
Is there any alternative to the User Window feature? Other than writing
a script?
Also, the last time I looked at NVDA, which might have been a year or
more ago, they too did not have anything like User Windows. Do they now?
I use several programs where I only wish to read a small part of the
screen, while ignoring the rest of the screen.
Thanks for any help, or reply,
Grumpy Dave
Oh, and by not Supporting User Windows is a Step Backwards, at least in
my mind. If a feature is going to be removed, then there should be
something to replace it with that does a better job. Scripting might be
a better solution, but not for the typical Window Eyes user.
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