knope, that didn't do anything. but if you use the window maximizer app it will maximize all windows that can be maximized. i don't know how to exclude programs. it maximizes firefox and pressing f11 has to be pressed with every web page change if i want to open the firefox pull down menus.

-----Original Message----- From: michaels mail
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:44 PM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?

I think Chris from  Ai Squared said if you press windows key plus press up
arrow and it will maxamize the window.
Cheers.

-----Original Message----- From: net bat via Talk
Sent: Friday, June 24, 2016 12:56 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?

try useing one of the w e apps.
window maximizer or window manager. this last one i haven't figured out how
to
make it work. when i click on test it doesn't do anything.

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 6:35 AM
To: Robert Ringwald ; Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?

Are you using windows 7 or 10?  It all worked great when I was using windows
7.  These problems all started with using WLM with windows 10?

-----Original Message----- From: Robert Ringwald via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 2:00 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problem with we and windows live mail?


I have good luck with WLM. The one thing I notice is, in order to read what
I write in the text of an email, I go to the subject line and then back into
the text. Then I can read what I write.

There has been a few times where I couldn't read what I write. I also
couldn't read the text so I rebooted the computer and then everything worked
find.

-Bob Ringwald



-----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:22 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Not everyone seem's to have it, but there has been some issues with being
able to read what you are writing in a reply, And, the backspace not
speaking at times. I'm pretty sure part of it is a focus issue in Windows
it's self. I don't know about Windows 7 although. In windows 8 and 10 there
have been some oddities with WLM. LOL

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:31 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

From what I see on the list, not everyone has this issue?

-----Original Message----- From: Tony C
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 7:27 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

I think it started with windows 8 and the versions of WE that worked with
it.

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:02 AM
To: michael's emails ; Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

It looks like I'm not the only one with this problem.  I just wish someone
had a way of fixing it.  I've been using wlm on my old windows 7 computer
for several years without these kinds of problems.

-----Original Message----- From: michael's emails via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:45 PM
To: Tony C ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

i get it happen everyday i mainly just use the restart we alt control w and
its okay
Cheers Michael.

-----Original Message----- From: Tony C via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 4:24 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Russ, I have the same thing happen to me most of the time..

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 8:22 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

None of those options have changed.  This is my first message after starting
WE and everything works as it should.  If I try to reply to another message
without restarting WE, the arrow keys and backspace keys don't speak.

-----Original Message----- From: net bat
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 1:04 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

look in the wlm set file in the cursor menu.
the backspace is suppose to be prior character before
***
are the defined keys gone?
i don't remember what app i had but when i ran it it would erase all of
these
settings and i had to reinstall the set files
the author had the same coruption and removed his app from the list.

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 12:38 PM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

No, I'm not using the preview pane.  I'm using the same settings when I was
using WLm on my old windows 7 computer.  Those settings all worked for the
last few years.  All of this started on this new computer.

-----Original Message----- From: net bat
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:50 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

again, are you useing the preview pane?
if so this uses browse mode. if browse mode is off you won't be able to edit
your messages.
i turned this off.

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 10:03 AM
To: net bat
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

It looks like it might be a WLM issue itself.  With the latest version of
NVDA, I can't use the arrow keys or backspace and have it speak.


-----Original Message----- From: net bat
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:53 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

are you useing the preview pain?
this might be the problem.
i turned this off because it will open messages that might have a virus
before
you can delete them.

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:41 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

No, I haven't tried reinstalling the wlm app.  I can't understand why it
works only one time and I have to restart WE  to reply to more than one
message?

-----Original Message----- From: net bat
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:36 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

have you tried re installing the wlm app? maybe the set files it uses are
damaged
there have been times when a re install of apps or set files fixed the
problems
i have had. even though there were no errors while useing the programs.


-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 9:13 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

ON the main screen, the wlm set file is associated with the program.

IN a open message, the wlm set file is associated with the program.

The only way I can reply to more than one message, I have to exit wlm, and
restart we.

-----Original Message----- From: net bat
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:52 AM
To: Russ Kiehne
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

when on the main screen open the w e control panel to see if the wlm set
file
is associated with the program.
then again when you open a message.
wlm uses two copies of the samme set file

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:48 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Yes, I do.

-----Original Message----- From: net bat
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 8:44 AM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

do you have the wlm app installed? this has the wlm set files included too.
or if you do check that it has not been disabled in the app manager.

-----Original Message----- From: Russ Kiehne via Talk
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2016 7:18 AM
To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
Subject: Strange problen with we and windows live mail?

Here’s the problem I now have with windows live mail on this new computer.
When replying to my first message after starting we, it works as it should.
Here is where the problem starts.  When I go to reply to my second message,
I
can’t use the arrow keys to review what I typed.  The back space won’t speak
when I back space.  When I check to see what set file is loaded, It’s
wineyes.set.
On the first message, It’s WindowsLiveMail.set.
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