A friend of mine has told me that NOD-32 has recently come out with a new
update. Is it accessible with Windoweyes?

Same question for Maleware Bytes; a while ago it wasn't accessible at all.
Has that changed? If not, what virus/malware programs do folks recommend for
use with WE?
Thanks. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Talk [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Carol and Roger via Talk
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 9:00 PM
To: Lloyd Rasmussen; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: strange speaking of character

Thanks to the Window-Eyes staff and David, my problem has been solved.  
First, I am using Neospeech Paul or Voiceware Paul, whichever you choose 
to call the voice.  It appears the problem here is the comma after the 
word "hi" and before the letter "I." If I break the line, it says "i" 
and if I choose another voice, it says "i" meaning that the VWPaul voice 
must have a feature which allows for Roman Numerals.  I will also check 
my WE settings to see if there is another option.  After playing with my 
settings, I have determined that the issue is with the voice, not 
Window-Eyes.  Thank you for the assistance, I am sure.  OK, now that I 
have that figured out, the I after the comma next to the word 
assistance, does say I, not one as I might expect, grin. Anyway, it is 
no big deal, I just couldn't figure out why it was saying one.  And, it 
has not done it anywhere else except in the example I referred to 
earlier.  Everyone have a nice weekend.

Carol



On 7/22/2016 8:31 PM, Lloyd Rasmussen via Talk wrote:
> Eloquence's pronunciation of many words does depend on the context. So 
> I wouldn't be completely surprised if I was interpreted as a Roman 
> numeral 1 in a few cases.
>
>
>
> Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
> http://lras.home.sprynet.com
> -----Original Message----- From: David via Talk
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 8:28 PM
> To: Carol and Roger ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: strange speaking of character
>
> OK, I am using Eloquence, and Thunderbird. Reading to the end, or
> arrowing line by line, it doesn't matter - I do not see the behavior you
> are experiencing, sorry. Yet, I do appreciate that you may have another
> synthesizer, and you may have settings or even apps that could cause
> this kind of behavior, so the following will be of general interest,
> annd hence you will have to do a bit of playing to see what would help
> you out.
>
> Looking through the line in question, the main differences between the
> two I's, that I noticed, is that there is a comma at the end of the
> preceeding word of the first I. Now, if some ap you have installed, or
> even your synthesizer's firmware interprets a capitalized I in the
> beginning of a clause, should be pronounced as the Roman number 1, you
> are right at the core of the issue.
>
> Solutions?
> My first go, would have been to copy the line in question to a blank
> document in something like Notepad. This so as to let you play around
> with it, without disturbing anything. try to edit the line, removing the
> comma, and then let the synthesizer read it out to you. Does the same
> behavior display? Try leaving the comma in place, but break the phrase
> into two different lines, that the first line will hold the text up to
> the comma, and the second line will start out with the first I. Arrow up
> and down, realizing how your synth will do the job.
>
> If any of the above would improve the speech, chances are that my guess
> had something to it - your screen reader interprets the first I as Roman
> number 1. Numerous reasons could play their role, the two main ones
> would be the synth used may have this kind of built-in interpretation,
> and the second one would be any apps you have installed. So try turning
> off any apps that may have an impact on your textual interpretation. I
> do know, there used to exist an app on App Central for making the speech
> read out Roman numbers correctly, so if you happen to be a user of that
> one, it might be one to turn off for the testing. And again, changing
> the synth may be the whole solution worth.
>
> Hope any of this would prove helpful in your tracing the reason for this
> behavior. Like I said, I did not hear the pronunciation you described.
> To me, both the I's were spoken properly as what they inreality are, the
> capitalized letter I. this even if arrowed up and down, or left and
> right through your sample line. There did exist no difference in the
> pronunciation. Hence, you may have something in use on your system, that
> causes this kind of behavior to come through.
>
> Like others on the list, if you happen to trace a possible reason for
> the behavior, would you mind to post the results to the list? At least
> it would be of informative value. And who knows, probably it could be
> the basis for some kind of "fixing app". :)
>
>
> David
>
> On 7/22/2016 6:05 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
>> Can anyone explain why my screen says two different things when 
>> pronouncing the first "I" in the below partial sentence?
>>
>> Hi Carol, I will let you know if I
>>
>> This was in an email and when I opened the message, both of the I's 
>> said "eye".  When I arrowed through the message, one line at a time, 
>> the first "I" was spoken as "one" and the second was spoken as 
>> "eye."  As far as I can tell, they both have the same unicode symbol 
>> and everything seems equal.  Yes, I know it is not a big deal, I am 
>> just puzzled as to why it would happen. Thanks.  Also, I sent this 
>> message to myself before sending it to the group and it still does 
>> the same thing.  There are many I's in this message and they all are 
>> spoken correctly except the one in the message. Really, I am mostly 
>> curious as to why only one letter would change its pronunciation
>>
>> Carol
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> On 7/22/2016 6:05 PM, Carol and Roger via Talk wrote:
>> Can anyone explain why my screen says two different things when 
>> pronouncing the first "I" in the below partial sentence?
>>
>> Hi Carol, I will let you know if I
>>
>> This was in an email and when I opened the message, both of the I's 
>> said "eye".  When I arrowed through the message, one line at a time, 
>> the first "I" was spoken as "one" and the second was spoken as 
>> "eye."  As far as I can tell, they both have the same unicode symbol 
>> and everything seems equal.  Yes, I know it is not a big deal, I am 
>> just puzzled as to why it would happen. Thanks.  Also, I sent this 
>> message to myself before sending it to the group and it still does 
>> the same thing.  There are many I's in this message and they all are 
>> spoken correctly except the one in the message. Really, I am mostly 
>> curious as to why only one letter would change its pronunciation
>>
>> Carol
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