Hi:

Maybe the author of that article is not familiar with Window-eyes.
By the way, how does Window-eyes work with Edge in the Windows 10
anniversary addition
Kevin Huber


On 8/10/16, Chris Skarstad via Talk <[email protected]> wrote:
> No mention of Window-eyes, eh? tisk tisk.
> On 8/10/2016 9:38 AM, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:
>> The following article came from
>> https://www.coolblindtech.com/ranking-screen-readers-in-windows10-anniversary-update-the-results-will-surprise-you/
>>
>> He seemed to leave out Window Eyes?
>>
>> Ranking Screen Readers In Windows10 Anniversary Update: The Results Will
>> Surprise You!
>>
>> James Oates
>>
>>
>> On  August 9, 2016
>>
>> In this article, I will attempt to review and rank three of the most
>> popular current screen readers that are available at this time. The three
>> screen readers were tested on the most recent version of Windows 10
>> anniversary update. This is important because one of the screen readers is
>> Microsoft’s most recently updated
>> Narrator.
>> Although ranking the screen readers might prove to be quite controversial,
>> I think it can also open up a real discussion on which screen readers are
>> most accessible, and even the question of accessibility can sometimes be
>> up for debate. I do realize that accessibility is determined by personal
>> needs and preferences, so I will attempt to define the criteria I used for
>> accessibility in this review.
>>
>> What Is Accessibility?
>>
>> Quite simply, I determined that accessibility is the ability to access
>> that which needs to be accessed. Also, I take points off accessibility for
>> the screen readers that make it difficult to access material by being
>> dysfunctional or by making it very difficult to figure out which
>> keystrokes need to be used with the material. Some screen readers make you
>> use ridiculous key combinations to activate website elements or functions
>> within applications. So without further ado, here are the rankings!
>>
>> Number One: Microsoft Narrator!
>>
>> It took me about a day to get used to the screen reader, but once I did, I
>> realized what a powerful tool
>> Microsoft
>> had created and that the company was finally serious about supporting a
>> built-in screen reader for the blind. In fact, the only thing I could find
>> wrong with the screen reader was that it did not work with my braille
>> display. I am currently working with Microsoft and
>> HIMS
>> to see if this problem can be resolved. Besides that one issue, the screen
>> reader was fully accessible on all websites and applications. I tested the
>> screen readers on Microsoft Edge, Internet Explorer, Groove Music, Skype,
>> Dropbox, Microsoft Word, Audacity, Feedback, and the Settings app.
>> Narrator now uses something called scan mode. You can toggle this on and
>> off by pressing caps lock and space bar. When scan mode is off, you can
>> tab through active elements, use Windows keyboard commands, and navigate
>> by means of your preferred preference; such as, items, headings, and
>> paragraphs. When scan mode is on, you can navigate through everything on
>> the screen—that includes text, website elements, and application
>> controls—by using the tab key, arrowing around the screen, or employing
>> letter navigation. How often has your screen reader announced; “OK
>> button”. And you are wondering; “What am I saying OK to?” When scan mode
>> is turned on, you can just arrow up and read the text associated with that
>> button. You do need to toggle scan mode off when you want to use keyboard
>> commands such as control P to pause a music track or alt F4 to close an
>> application. This was the only screen reader that was fully functional
>> using Microsoft Edge. It was also the only screen reader that was able to
>> read every active element and all text on each website and application.
>> Clearly, hands down, Narrator is the winner!
>>
>> Second-Place Goes to NVDA.
>>
>> NVDA
>> performed mostly well. The problem is it uses a function called browse
>> mode that doesn’t actually work at this time. You’re supposed to be able
>> to toggle between focus and browse modes by pressing insert plus spacebar.
>> It’s supposed to function like Narrator’s scan mode. Because it didn’t
>> work, Microsoft Edge was only able to read active elements, not text, on
>> the screen. It was also difficult to read text on other applications. Like
>> I said before, you want to know what you’re saying “OK” to. Also, there
>> were other applications where you had to switch the pain view to see what
>> else was on the screen. That’s OK if you know that there are other pains
>> on the screen. But if you don’t, you’re missing out on loads of
>> information. NVDA is still a fantastic screen reader and the developers of
>> the project are working on fixing browse mode. I suspect they will work
>> out the kinks very soon. But can they keep up with all the changes and
>> updates coming from Microsoft on an almost daily basis?
>>
>> JAWS Finishes in a Distant Third.
>>
>> This wasn’t even close! I don’t even know where to begin! For starters,
>> the JAWS display driver interfered with the Microsoft Upgrade Assistant
>> which is a program that allows customers to download Windows10 Anniversary
>> Update without having to wait for the automatic update. I had to uninstall
>> the Freedom Scientific display driver just to download my free copy of
>> Windows 10 Anniversary Update. Next,
>> JAWS
>> does not work with Microsoft Edge unless you’re using the touch cursor.
>> This makes Microsoft’s primary browser virtually unusable. This is
>> inexcusable and unacceptable. JAWS has also come up with some very
>> convoluted keystroke combinations to interact with elements on webpages. I
>> also ran into several situations where JAWS was incapable of activating
>> navigation bars on webpages. I just want to know, are the people at
>> VFO
>> serious about accessibility, or just interested in convincing people in
>> enterprise and government that they are?
>>
>> Final Thoughts.
>>
>> I really enjoyed the Mark mobile voice that Narrator uses. I was also
>> pleasantly surprised at how quickly the screen reader reacts. I’m now
>> using it as my primary screen reader. I of course will always continue to
>> use NVDA as well. It is an amazing product and will only continue to
>> improve. They have one of the most talented group of developers I’ve ever
>> seen. As for JAWS, I can’t think of one good thing to say. And that’s a
>> difficult position for me to take. When I first became a teacher 25 years
>> ago, JAWS was the only program that made the digital world accessible for
>> me. It was an amazing product, and I’ve always shown a great deal of
>> gratitude toward them, but even I have to admit that they’re not
>> maintaining their commitment to customers. You don’t know how difficult
>> that is for me to say this because I have a great deal of loyalty toward
>> the people who helped me when I was younger. I hope the people at VFO and
>> Freedom Scientific
>> can turn things around, but most importantly I applaud the accessibility
>> team at Microsoft. For years Microsoft has preached accessibility but
>> seemed more interested in promoting their own advancement within the field
>> of accessibility. The new
>> Microsoft accessibility
>> team is finally focusing on their actual customers. What a refreshing
>> change! I have also recorded a podcast demonstrating the use and
>> accessibility of Windows 10 anniversary update. I hope you give it a
>> listen.
>>
>> The views expressed here are purely my own, and should be taken as such.
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