Well, ain't it just funny, their slogan.
A perfect replacement for Outlook Express and Windows (Live) Mail:....
How perfect is a software, that does not even care much about its users?
Even when they obviously are well aware of the issue, down to the
degrade that they have gone the extra mile few developers do, to
download and test NVDA in conjunction with their product.
Unfortunately, we have seen this happen before. Even good, reliably
accessible products - hardware just as much as software - when they
modernize the software, well there goes accessibility. The reply you
got, shows one important fact. Accessibility is not always a matter of
possibility, but rather a matter of priority and attitude. Seems today,
in the world of smartphones and tablets, that people are becoming kind
of practical illiterates - that is, if they don't get a picture or an
icon to swipe, klick or tab on, they are ready to go hungry from the
table. :) I have recently experienced several cases, where people simply
do not understand how you would ever operate a computer, if there is no
icons, and how would you ever survive without the mouse? No, it is no
bad joke, but that is what people puzzle.
Guess the best thing in your case, hard as the suggestion might be, is
to leave all products from this manufacturer alone. Likely, it won't
bring anything to keep trying their products. Might be a better go for
you, to either find another software that would hold the features you
are after, or even go and climb the learning curve of one of the
alternative products out there.
My intention here is not to start a long line of mourning over things we
would have liked to see. I just found it quite contradicting, their
slogan and their attitude. And I want you to know, you are not the only
one experiencing this kind of lack of understanding of our situation.
On 9/10/2016 12:29 AM, Chris Skarstad via Talk wrote:
> I think scripting or other screenreader modifications are going to be
> our best bett. I've never quite understood this mentality by these
> developers. So they can do something that makes their program
> available to as wide of an audience as humanly possible, but other
> stuff is higher on the roadmap??
>
> WTF? Why on earth would they not want to make their program as
> usable to as many people as possible? They look at usability of the
> program as a feature. Also, adding labels to these controls is not an
> impossible thing. They make it sound as if we're asking for the moon
> and the stars or something. Sheesh. i know we're not their first
> priority and i know we're a very small group of people, but if they
> make excuses like this it shows a real lack of a commitment to
> accessibility, which is really sad.
>
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> On 9/9/2016 6:03 PM, bj colt via Talk wrote:
>> Hi list,
>>
>> Below is the responce I recieved from Customer support of oe2. I
>> think they are saying it will take a long, long, time for it to be
>> made accessible for us.
>>
>> We are aware that OE Classic has issues with screen-readers for certain
>> controls. To avoid technical explanation, we are aware that these
>> controls
>> need a Accessible Name which is something what is built into Windows
>> (more
>> recent versions such as Windows Vista or more recent) but unfortunately,
>> they are fairly recent and are not implemented to the level of all
>> Windows
>> controls which OE Classic uses. So we have to add support for this
>> name in
>> controls - there are a few methods to do this and we examined them for a
>> while.
>>
>> For now, this is in To-Do list. As we are fairly small team, it will
>> take a
>> while (possibly even a good while) before we start addressing these
>> issues.
>> We have been testing it with NVDA and we found that some controls behave
>> really poorly, while others behaved surprisingly well (mostly buttons
>> and
>> checkboxes). I have added you to the notification list so when we
>> make more
>> progress toward that goal I will notify you - but it will be a while
>> before
>> that happens.
>>
>> best regards,
>> Zvonko Tesic
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: bj colt
>> Sent: Friday, September 09, 2016 4:36 PM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: accessibility
>>
>> [OEC VERSION] 2.51 (2016-07-20)
>> [ REGISTERED] No
>> [ WINDOWS] 7 / Server 2008 R2
>>
>> Dear Customer Service,
>>
>> I am a blind person, using a screen reading program called
>> window-eyes. I
>> downloaded oe2 and found that the program lacked accessibility for my
>> program. The options menu would not read with the tab or shift tab keys.
>> ~The focus didn't go to the next email when the email highlighted was
>> deleted.
>>
>> The folder view was only accessible using the shift tab stroke.
>>
>>
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