When I upgraded to v9.5, (so a long time ago now) I was offered and accepted a 
new Software Maintenance Agreement.

I still have that agreement.

Neither AI Squared or VFO had contacted me to say that my SMA can't be honoured.

However: by default - if Window-Eyes development ceases, someone from VFO will 
just hope that our SMAs wil just drift into the St Petersburg HQ.

Again: VFO - stop the endless speculation that we are  indulging in - it exists 
because VFO will not communicate.


Vaughan.




-----Original Message-----
From: Talk 
[mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of bj colt via Talk
Sent: Monday, 28 November 2016 5:18 a.m.
To: Butch Bussen; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Hi,

As far as I am aware aisquared are no longer selling s m a's. In an email from 
someone at aisquared a few months ago. The person sending the email to asquared 
asked if s m a's could be purchased and how much they were. The aisquared 
person stated that the cost of an upgrade was $49 but did not mention s m a's. 
Leading me to believe then that window-eyes was not safe at that point.

I keep a very slight hope that window-eyes will survive but all the signs say 
it won't. A good Company with a good Public Relations office would have kept 
window-eyes customers up to date with internal events in VFO. Sadly this 
company hasn't, neither has aisquared. It is the lack of information that is 
the problem. Taking into account dealers being informed that window-eyes and 
related products will no longer be on offer after December the first is 
extremely worrying. Add up all the negatives one does get an idea window-eyes 
will be discontinued. As there are absolutely no positives. 
What else are window-eyes customers to conclude. All down to both VFO and 
Asquared for not keeping us up to date. As window-eyes customers we have the 
right to be informed about the product we have loyally supported for over two 
decades.

Live long and prosper, John

-----Original Message-----
From: Butch Bussen via Talk
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2016 3:58 PM
To: Russ Kiehne ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
Subject: Re: Future of WE

Yep, that that requires logical thinking which isn't to common these days.  If 
they are still selling s m a contracts, that is a little odd.
73
Butch
WA0VJR
Node 3148
Wallace, ks.


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Sun, 27 Nov 2016, Russ Kiehne via Talk wrote:

> With several employees leaving AI Squared and VFO instructing dealers 
> to no longer sell Window Eyes, that should tell you something?
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Nick Sarames via Talk
> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 3:10 PM
> To: Dennis Long ; Window-Eyes Discussion List ; 'Dave'
> Subject: Re: Future of WE
>
> I'm not sure I understand why some here feel this urgent need to 
> switch to another screen reader at this moment.
>
> On 11/26/2016 6:03 PM, Dennis Long via Talk wrote:
>>  Jaws 18 is out and should have a demo.
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: Talk
>>  [mailto:[email protected]]
>>  On Behalf Of Dave via Talk
>>  Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2016 1:51 PM
>>  To: A I Squared Support
>>  Subject: Future of WE
>>
>>  I must admit, the Future of Window Eyes does look like it could be very
>>  limited, as in soon to be Discontinued.   But, who knows for sure.  The
>>  Parent Company might be slow and Cumbersome which makes them slow to do
>>  anything that gets back to the customers    Slow to announce new stuff,
>>  slow to bring out Updates, slow to Fix problems etc.
>>
>>  I too am starting to use NVDA a bit more.   On my System, NVDA is just a
>>  touch slower, and I am still not understanding it way of reading 
>> parts of  the screen, at least not consistently.
>>
>>  email, MS Word and the Internet all seem to read well enough.  Some 
>> times  a  bit too much is spoken, and I am still learning how to make 
>> NVDA speak  less.
>>
>>  And to be fair, NVDA is not Free, but you can obtain it for Free, 
>> use it,  and if you like it, then the owners and creators of NVDA 
>> would love to see  a  Donation come their way.  Money does motivate 
>> the continued improvement of  their product.
>>
>>  If more money had been coming into GW Micro, then A I Squared would not
>>  have bought GW Micro.   and this discussion would never have taken 
>> place.
>>
>>  I doubt if any of us would work for Free indefinitely.   And the guys
>>  who have put NVDA together would not put in so much effort into NVDA 
>> if  they  did not receive enough to make it worth their time and 
>> energy.
>>
>>  The thing about NVDA is that you can donate $50 and the guys will be  
>> grateful.  $50 is cheaper than $1300 for JAWS.
>>
>>  NVDA doesn't do everything JAWS does, but to be honest, I do not need
>>  NVDA to do everything JAWS does.    Each person will need to find out if
>>  NVDA will do everything they need it to do.  If it doesn't, and we 
>> all  find  out that Window Eyes is truly Dead, then those needing 
>> more will need to  start saving up for their copy of JAWS, whether 
>> they like it or not.
>>
>>  I have two programs that NVDA will not read.  Window Eyes will read 
>> one of  them, and when JAWS 18 has a Demo, I intend to try it, to see 
>> if it
>>  will read both of these programs.   If it does, against my will, I will
>>  need to purchase a copy of JAWS.    I might object, but if I wish to use
>>  these programs, then I have no choice.
>>
>>  Time will tell what the Future of Window Eyes will be, and whether 
>> or not  we  each need to see what we can find to replace a decent and 
>> respectable  Screen Reader.
>>
>>  There are other choices than NVDA and JAWS, although, I know nothing
>>  about them.    And since I rarely hear of them, I assume they are not
>>  all that good.    Maybe some of you here have experience with some of
>>  the other choices in Screen Readers?
>>
>>  Grumpy Dave
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